I sincerely wish it was a Bloomberg ad. Then it would be everywhere.
Politicians need to get it through their thick skulls that attacking the customers of the other brand isnāt a good way to win a selling competition. Seriously it isnāt. Iāve never in my life seen a Pepsi or a Coke ad attacking the people who drink the other brand.
One more reason not to want Pete to win the nom. Heās actively poisoning his chances in the general to win the primary now. It all ties back to the fact that heās an asshole who will do anything to win right now of course. Iāve never seen a better example of a boomer-in-a-millenialās-body than this guy honestly. Heās got it nailed all the way down to the short term thinking.
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This right here is a great example of what Warren uniquely brings to the table. Bernie is good for pointing the direction we should goā¦ this is gps coordinates for where we should go. This would actually make a real difference.
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Or just actually talk about what specifically needs to be done. The whole countryās infrastructure if falling to pieces, they could probably* guarantee jobs for most unemployed people for a decade by just fixing all the roads/bridges/rails/waterways/etc.
*I donāt really know if itās probably, Iām just guessing.
Not the same thing as a jobs guarantee and should probably be done by people who are already in construction.
Sure, but what Iām saying is that instead of talking abstractly about a jobs guarantee they would be better served pointing out what specific things those people would be doing. People are going to interpret (with lots of supporting propaganda from the Rs) ājob guaranteeā as hand out to lazy people. Theyād be better off promoting it as a program to solve specific problems, and describe it that way.
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Am I missing something? That Biden ad is just more of what Hillary tried to do. Itās just pandering. Trumpkins love that shit.
On another note, GOPeteās quote on Trump supporters being racists is the best thing heās ever said.
This is just not true. Youāre all for giving people the option to buy lower cost healthcare than what is currently provided.
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I love this. Good job, Pete.
Yes, Trump voters were gonna flock to Pete in the general without this comment. Your hatred of him is blinding. His observation is 100% accurate and thereās nothing wrong with pointing it out.
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Lol GOPete, canāt wait to hear his thoughts on economic anxiety in rural America
Fuck the fuck off, douche
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Counterpoint: itās a dumb ad. Itās just like those Hillary ads that told us how awful Trump was. Everyone already knows Trump is an embarrassing clown, tell us what that Joe Biden guy is all about. Why should I turn out for Biden if Iām a regular slob in Wisconsin? I donāt give a fuck if the pretty-boy Canada guy laughs at Trump.
Itās looking like weāre running a Hillary-style candidate with a Hillary-style campaign. Gonna be another close one.
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This is one of those areas of real disagreement between myself and some of the people on this board. I look at racist lower class white people and wonder about how we could deprogram them and turn them back into reliable Democratic voters. Obviously I donāt want to do it by appealing to their racism, but I am not OK with just losing them to the GOP.
Hereās the thing: racism is a tool used by the oligarchs to split the vote of the bottom 60%ā¦ because obviously if they ever found any solidarity with one another they would be an unstoppable voting block. As a result I see racism as a problem to be solved rather than something to judge people for. Yes they are racist. Now how do we deal with that?
One thing that is absolutely certain to not work is a frontal attack. Itās one of the most reliable ways to get people to clench up and disengage. Obama did a pretty good job (considering his skin pigmentation) of keeping these people in play, and he did much better with them than expected. Thatās why there were enough voters who switched from him to Trump to cost HRC the election. No it wasnāt a huge group of voters, but Donald didnāt win by much. He won by a sliver in a bunch of midwestern states.
A lot of people on this board donāt seem to understand that these people have zero issue with downright socialist policies. Their go to suggestion for solving any problem is for the state to step in and force people to do things. Tell a truck driver that a robot is going to do his job some day and his first proposal will be to ban self driving technology. The GOP isnāt a libertarian party in any way shape or form, they are a racist statist (I use this libertarian loaded term here only to demonstrate the kind of language you should use on the Trumpists themselves, Iām obviously pretty statist myself lol) party that promises these people imagined privilege over other people (minorities).
The way you get at these people is to make arguments where you describe, in vivid detail, whatās in it for them to support you. When your opponent appeals to race you immediately counterpoint by appealing to class. You show that the other guy is just using race to get them to vote against their own interests. You definitely do not call them racists and just cede them to the other side. This battle for poor whites isnāt lost, weāve just stopped even pretending to care about them, and thatās why we keep losing themā¦ and the truth is they are in real pain between the loss of an ungodly number of jobs, the opiate epidemic, and their own (admittedly lesser vs minorities but still crazy by any international standard) victimization by the justice system. Never forget that the justice system first and foremost fucks up poor people. That absolutely includes poor white people. My wife and I are still terrified of cops because we grew up poor.
The best message to these people is that their problems are real and that we are going to help them. Have some compassion for them. They genuinely deserve it.
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I think itās a good anti-Trump ad, though Iām not sure what it does for Joe Biden. Pummeling America with images of this supposed strongman tough guy as a demented moron is good, but itās not helping Grandpa Joe, who also seems incapable of speaking coherently.
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Yeah, this. I love it as an anti-Trump ad in general. I wish there were more of them out there. It did nothing for me in regards to Biden.
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Every Biden ad should be about defending the ACA. Heād win in a landslide. Dems have a political superweapon but theyāre too dumb and incompetent to ever use it.
JFC, who stays up late at night worrying about Americaās standing in the world? You think a guy driving a forklift in an Amazon warehouse cares if Angela Merkel is laughing at Trump?
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In my imaginary fantasy world Joe loses the nom anyways, so Iād rather he put all his energy into fucking with Trump.
I know this was 2014 but all Pete does is speak in platitudes. Also itās laughable that the ābreathe easyā shirt released in response to the āI canāt breatheā shirts supporting Eric Gardner were about police safety according to Pete. I dunno if he was just being ignorant or trying to both sides this shit so he wouldnāt have to criticize the cops
https://twitter.com/walkerbragman/status/1202039070102298624?s=21
Also after learning a little about his senior advisor/commās director Lis Smith, she seems like an odd pick for a āprogressiveā candidate.
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I donāt think the ACA is much of a benefit, politically. Even the people benefiting from it donāt feel that great about it because even with the subsidy theyāre still paying an absolutely absurd percentage of their income towards premiums, deductibles and copays, and itās still a stressful nightmare to actually get sick.
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