Well, she is expanding existing Medicare to over-50s and is providing free coverage to those listed in the post you quoted, but everyone else has to pay, yeah. Her theory is that this is easier to pass and that the public option will be superior enough that it will create public support for true M4A. It basically depends on whether you believe her that this will be easier to pass or whether you subscribe to this:
Yes extremely simple to understand.
Where youâre encountering confusion (because it makes no sense) is with the outrage over being presented with the wrong fantasy.
Elizabeth Warren: I will pass a super generous public option, a 1000% improvement over the current healthcare system, then use the political capital built up by this to pass single payer by year 3.
Unstuck: Thatâs totally unrealistic! Single payer will never pass that way. Traitor!!!
Bernie Sanders: I will pass M4A in the first 100 days by taking on the drug companies and the greed of insurance companies. I will do this without nuking the fillibuster in the Senate, by sheer force of will, getting millions of Americans in the streets.
Unstuck: Thatâs totally unrealistic! Single payer will never pass that way. Youâre my hero.
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Implementing M4A is a monumental undertaking. Thinking this can be done in two years is beyond optimistic.
Yeah the fact you canât understand the difference is on you.
I couldnât get through the article. Itâs a hit piece (basically biased opinion), disguised as investigation. As Chris noted, there are exactly two sources for the hit. One is anonymous, and the other is the person on the other side of the suit (canât find her political affiliations/endorsements since this hit piece basically takes up the searches about the person). The anonymous source is someone on the legal team (supposedly) who says very little, and the other probably never saw much of Warren. It just smells like bullshit to me, and itâs presented with stilted language that isnât how any straight investigation piece is ever written. But it did its job and flew through the internet unchecked.
There are a number of people in elite circles who donât like Warren much as well, and the anonymous source doesnât provide details on what exactly Warren did. So when Warren says âI consulted at a time where Dow and plaintiff interests were alignedâ and they quote some anonymous source saying âActually no, she is a bad person who did the bad thingâ then I donât really care, give details or your name or gtfo imo.
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Man, this Buttigieg/Thigpen phantom endorsement thing is just terrible optics, lol. Someone on the campaign staff should really eat a bullet for that.
Super generous - I hope the poor people are sufficiently grateful.
As a fairly poor person with no job security, I assure you Iâlll be quite grateful if anything close to this passes.
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Yeah, and I mean the substance of the article isnât even good. Itâs a short bit on that, and then goes down the list of essentially âhow dare this âsocialistâ be in these lawsuits?â like sheâs not allowed to make money. The piece works better as a template hit piece on Bernie, but obviously it wasnât him who happened to do the things she did in her profession. Itâs just written in a very biased way, in my opinion. I wish this were something people could see easily, but it really isnât these days.
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Gonna have to wait to fully process my thoughts regarding Warrenâs plan, but my initial reaction is that Iâm pissed.
OMG fuck you Pete. Asshole.
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The interests of the women in bankruptcy were represented by a Tort Committee and the committee was negotiating with Dow Corning. Why couldnât she do her âtechnical workâ w/ a professional obligation to represent the best interests of the Tort Committee rather than Dow Corning at $675/hr?
She calls it M4A option. It is part of a bigger M4A plan that would, if fully implemented, become single payer and abolish private insurance (allowing only non-duplicative coverage through supplemental insurance, as do the Sanders and Jayapal plans). You can say itâs unrealistic to expect it to be fully implemented, but the same is true of all M4A plans.
I mean yeah but if youâre looking for a lawyer who has never repped a scumbag youâre gonna be here a while
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The flip flop implies all the right wing hysteria has merit.
If everything goes absolutely perfectly in 2020, we will have 51 Senators including Joe Manchin. Filibuster isnât going away and nothing is passing. But this walk back looks like a response to GOPeteâs talking points and implies to the public M4A is indeed a crazy, pie in the sky idea.
Iâve been working and canât really read much now, but if the plan is no big departure, but sorta sounds like it, then again, what does @skydiver8 think, because it looks more like a move to compete more directly for Peteâs potential supporters
Warren/Pete = candidate of whiter, richer, more educated democrats. Biden/Bernie = candidate of less white, poorer, less educated democrats. This explains the politics far better than Bernie/Liz are in the progressive lane and Pete/Biden are in the moderate lane.
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Yang is for straight up M4A, right?
If so Iâm putting him second after Bernie.
Itâs bizarre, I donât know what they were thinking. Seems like the details of the plan getting immediately swamped by controversy over these supposed endorsements was a 100% chance to happen and it looks breathtakingly cynical for a candidate who already had some issues with black support. Just a really weird thing to do politically.
Dunno if that is true about Biden at all. And another bid difference is Pete, Joe, and Liz are popular with Boomers and Bernie isnât.