Who will run in 2020?

yes, bring it on! (I love the subtlety of that twitter account) but you didn’t include the context tweet!
https://twitter.com/DPRK_News/status/1184651788072509440?s=20

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https://mobile.twitter.com/DPRK_News/status/1186384492631601155

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https://mobile.twitter.com/DPRK_News/status/1186670230191386625

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I don’t have that tweet in my twitter time line :pensive:

Do you have those 2 above that I posted?

yes. The one I posted was the first of two, the second one from the thread was the first one you posted

In honor of David S, I’d bet $100 that Pete could beat Yang in a math test.

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Found it… :+1:

That’s a bad bet to run. Would be close though. Both get perfect scores is a very likely outcome.

I retract my offer.

“After working in the healthcare industry for four years, Yang left MMF Systems to join his friend Zeke Vanderhoek at a small test preparation company, Manhattan Prep. In an appearance on the podcast Freakonomics , Yang said he “personally taught the analyst classes at McKinsey, Goldman Sachs, JPMorgan, and Morgan Stanley” during the 2008 financial crisis.[16] In 2006, Vanderhoek asked Yang to take over as CEO. While Yang was CEO, the company primarily provided GMAT test preparation.”

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Yeah I knew that. Yang is a freakish test taker specifically.

Yang has the elite pedigree that middle class strivers like Warren and Butigig could only dream of.

Yang’s family settled in Westchester County, New York, where Yang grew up.[3] He described being bullied and called racial slurs by classmates while attending public school. He later wrote, “Perhaps as a result, I’ve always taken pride in relating to the underdog or little guy or gal”.[10] Yang later attended Phillips Exeter Academy, an elite boarding school in New Hampshire.[11] Yang graduated from Exeter in 1992 and went on to attend Brown University,[12] where he majored in economics and political science and graduated in 1996.[13] He then attended Columbia Law School, earning a Juris Doctor in 1999.[2]

I usually regard people with such backgrounds as likely to be not as bright as they would otherwise seem based on their credentials. They had too many advantages. However, Yang appears to be an exception. I wonder if he’s pissed that he didn’t get into Harvard because he was “just another asian.”

BTW, while I suspect Yang is “really smart”, I think his focus on UBI and automation are likely naive and misconceived for reasons that people like Ygelsias regularly point out.

Fun fact about Butigig and Sanders (that I think has been mentioned before).

“In 2000, Buttigieg was valedictorian of his senior class at St. Joseph High School in South Bend.[16] That year, he won first prize in the John F. Kennedy Presidential Library and Museum’s Profiles in Courage essay contest. He traveled to Boston to accept the award and met Caroline Kennedy and other members of President Kennedy’s family. The subject of his winning essay was the integrity and political courage of then U.S. Representative Bernie Sanders of Vermont, one of only two independent politicians in Congress.[17][18]

So you have the two youngest people running, Pete and Tulisi, who apparently love Bernie. Why don’t they drop out and endorse him?

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Yang is out front about how the meritocracy is broken and our economic metrics are trash. He’s also right that automation is the big previously to him running unspoken thing happening to the country. He’s absolutely not wrong about the quantity of industrial automation that happened in formerly Democratic areas of the midwest that went for Trump in 2016.

He also willfully swan dived off the meritocratic track when he worked at big law for five months and quit to do a startup that failed lol.

The policies the guy is proposing will almost certainly read like what we should have just done in 2019 in 2029. Unfortunately most of the people on this board and most Democratic primary voters generally seem to think he has no shot. I don’t personally get what they see exactly, but to me he seems like a pretty strong choice.

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I hardly think Yang is the first candidate to recognize that automation and job losses are going to be problems.

I’m not sure they are problems at all. We are at record high levels of employment. Make the minimum wage $15/hr, do block grants or investment incentives in old rustbelt cities or build colleges (worked for Pittsburgh), and/or provide incentives for people to move to “declining” areas. Automation problem solved.

That’s been posted several times by me. Elizabeth Warren’s first political town hall was for Bernie before he ever ran for potus. Lotta Bernie Bros in this field.

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No we aren’t. There’s a big difference between unemployment rate and labor force participation rate. You making that statement is an excellent demonstration of Yangs point that our metrics are broken though.

Automation is about to absolutely smash call center workers, retail workers, fast food workers, and the back offices of basically every corporation of every size. The automation crisis is just beginning.

And all of that will happen before the cars and trucks start driving themselves 5-10 years out. That will be the next round. The call centers, retail, and back office stuff is happening right now.

There’s an app out there right now that will fight traffic tickets for you that will put a lot of lower level lawyers out of work as it scales. This isn’t just low end people, it’s anyone whose work is repetitive.

It’s 40% of jobs by some year 10-15 years in the future that I don’t recall according to basically every credible source of analysis. It’s going to be an economic tidal wave that arrives at the exact same time as millions upon millions of climate refugees as climate change makes the warmer places on earth uninhabitable.

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Big corporations will adopt automation much faster than other technological breakthroughs because payroll is the bane of their existence and none of them will be able to resist the urge to slash so much of it so quickly.

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Yeah it’s a lot of money and a source of easy financial results. Plus the bigger you are the more you can push inconveniences and problems with the technology onto customers.

Plus Amazon is out there driving the automation of retail jobs by replacing retail workers with warehouse robots… and Amazon has zero issues with adopting and integrating new tech. If anything Amazon thrives on it. That’s a huge part of what makes them so fucking scary.

It’s good that Yang is running. He should run for mayor of something next. That reminds me

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.sacbee.com/news/local/article226280230.html