What is “it”? Terrorism? Obviously terrorism can happen here, and does. The violent overthrow of the government? It can’t happen because the people who want to control the government don’t have anything like the capacity they need to contest the government’s control of the country.
just wanted to point out how absurb it is that old white man biden getting elected leads to lots of aggrieved white people.
Also i don’t see any civil war or even widespread violence but sure right wing terrorist attacks/mass shootings are on the table, they already are.
Also i think people my age, 34, don’t realize that previous times were a hell of a lot more violent with respect to bombings etc and the nation didn’t fall apart.
I agree that the election isn’t going to be the stimulus. Another unarmed black person being killed by cops, followed by “rioting”, shortly after the election when a lot of white people are still stewing with their rustled jimmies is more likely to be the stimulus.
Imagine a scenario where dozens of Kyle Rittenhouses descend upon a city in racial strife, looking for an excuse to take out their grievances on a perceived threat. And imagine a bunch of Cactuses deciding that they are not putting up with this shit anymore and it’s time to make a stand.
Now imagine that other cities have protests and counter-protests with similar dynamics.
Does this sort of violence enable the “legalistic coup” that bobman is worried about?
We are drawing live to a scenario where state and local government is seen as more broken and ineffective than the federal government currently is. Right wing terrorists can’t take down the federal government, but can they take down a mayor or a governor? What happens then?
I can see us in a situation where we are facing an insurgency that is more than simple domestic terrorism but not quite a civil war.
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Yes, that last sentence is the “it” I’m talking about, but I believe it will be sanctioned and/or tolerated by the local police force and the DOJ.
i will happily and gladly be wrong about any of this but I think dismissing it as alarmist fantasy is a little too optimistic.
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I think Biden’s will win pretty easily, nothing will happen, these weirdos will more or less disappear and 2024 GOP will nominate Haley or something and pretend Trump never existed.
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I’m all for peaceful protest. It’s just that when the cops and national guard come in and start violently attacking peaceful protesters physically, with tear gas, rubber bullets, and start carting people away in unmarked cars to unknown destinations, along with gladly accepting the help of Nazis looking for violence, I don’t give the peaceful side much of a chance
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I mean… hippies didn’t tend to fight anyone (which was part of the problem with them). They had the establishment on its knees virtually, and sat around smoking dope and talking shit while it regrouped, and we ended up with Reagan and Thatcher.
Thanks hippies.
Contrast with the Yippies and some activists, though…
This isn’t meant to criticize your choice of bender beverage because people’s tastes are different, but holy fuck at a multi-day bender on champagne only. I can’t even fathom the headache I would have after 2-3 hours, let alone days.
With that said, hopefully it’s good stuff and you enjoy the hell out of it.
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But they might be kept in check by a Biden landslide victory. These people just didn’t pop up out of thin air. They were alive and well during the Obama years and were stewing in their anger. Hence, their glee for Trump
Everything Trump does is myopically focused on undoing and dismantling Obama’s legacy and anything he managed to achieve. Trump is a petty man and will never forget the time Obama got laughs at Trump’s expense at that correspondence dinner. I truly believe that other than enrich himself, everything he does is motivated by his hatred for Obama
Growing a garden, learning basic carpentry skills. Using those skills to build raised beds, work benches, rabbit hutch. Building a mobile solar capture device. Looking into getting rabbits to raise for food. Studying permaculture to convert my suburban acre into a “stealth farm”. These are all activities I should have been doing anyway.
Also looking into an aquaponics setup.
Looking at property in Idaho so we can move and be away from people. The last 4 years have taught me that I don’t like humanity very much.
I already have guns, but as folks have noted in this thread and others, I am never winning a gunfight against FEDGOV or an angry mob. If it comes to that, the world is burning anyway.
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An old mate used to work for a London wine company. When he heard of the claimed exploits of Peter Langan (a notoriously drunk restrauteur) in drinking 12 bottles of champagne a day he declared to me “That’s bollocks. It can’t be done”. When I asked him how he knew he said “Because the most anyone can do is 6 - I know, I’ve tried”.
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Maybe no one can drink 12 bottles of champagne anymore, but there used to be someone who could.
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No, with all due respect drinking bottles of champagne is a quite different proposition to drinking bottles of wine. It’s all in the bubbles. Personally I found that 3 was a hands and knees job.
Wow, those are some seriously amazing stories. Any one of those “feats” would kill a normal person. Absolutely crazy.
Beer is less carbonated, but 119 of them in 6 hours…I think he could have done a dozen bottles of champagne. I mean, if Peter Whoever did 6, he surely could have done 12.
The article states wine?
Yes, I know it doesn’t state 12 bottles of champagne. But the 12 bottles of wine was just him killing time, not trying to set a record.
Hmmm ok, but I’m doubting that even someone of his size could drink that quantity of champagne before passing out. The beer and wine exploits are quite credible. I mean I know people who’ve woken up to 15 or 16 empty bottles of wine after a night in with a pal, but 12 bottles of champagne each? No way.
Jeesh… Me and my gf are total lightweights and can’t even finish a bottle of wine between the two of us in one night. We’ve been out with other couples who will order a bottle for themselves at dinner and finish it before we leave the restaurant. It’s a shame because I like good wine, but it’s wasted on us. I hear once you open the bottle you should finish it same night
Lol my wife and I used to bring a bottle each for BYO restaurants.
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