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Yeah that dude sucks for sure

my ex-wifeā€™s nephew used to be her niece, hope iā€™m saying that right.

ex-wifeā€™s dad died a few months ago and i went to calling hours, saw all of them for the first time in many years. gave him a hug and said i was proud of him for being who he is.

then i realized i shook my exā€™s other nephewā€™s hand :woozy_face: spent a few days thinking about that.

anyway, heā€™s been a cashier at the dollar general near my house for a month or so, had a couple short conversations. definitely am curious and would love to get food and talk, but my desire to remain no contact with my ex-wife and her family is stronger.

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If thereā€™s a need/purpose to discuss someone elseā€™s gender, just saying ā€œmy ex-wifeā€™s nephew is transā€ would suffice.

As my kid transitioned, it was a big topic for me, especially in support group scenarios. So I think I got pretty comfortable talking about it. Maybe a little too comfortable in scenarios where it wasnā€™t/isnā€™t appropriate. Iā€™m trying to remind myself that other peoplesā€™ genders arenā€™t any of my business, and I try to limit discussion about it to people I might be able to support or help.

My trans son now has a boyfriend which is a bit of a brain twister if I think about it much beyond: Is he happy? Is he safe? Is the person heā€™s with treating him well? After that itā€™s his journey and Iā€™m here to support and love him and thatā€™s it.

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yeah i probably should have came up with that on my own.

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Depends a bit on the crowd youā€™re speaking with, too. Here everybody knows that the pronoun and gendered word (nephew) in the sentence refers to his current/target gender, but if youā€™re talking to some older folks they might hit you with the whole ā€œwait does that mean heā€™s trying to be a she, or vice versa?ā€ confusion. In those cases it might be better to say ā€œmy nephew transitioned to maleā€ to make it clearer.

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@LFS , youā€™re a good dude. Keep doing what youā€™re doing.

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Meanwhile, my oldest brother (70) sometimes steers our calls into trans discussion. ā€œWho puts what whereā€. ā€œThey say Iā€™m discriminating if I donā€™t want to date (he means have sex) a woman that used to be a manā€

Heā€™s also very misogynistic after spending his 20s and 30s as a complete hound, 10 year marriage in his 40s. Any accusation of a famous person is probably a lie.

Oddly heā€™s not a Trumper. I canā€™t imagine he votes for Biden.

As he repeats the same stories over and over and over again, I just find a reason to get off the phone. Iā€™ve tried to make the point of knowing people personally but it doesnā€™t go anywhere. But promised Dad before he passed that Iā€™d stay in touch. Iā€™m medical power of attorney etc.

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I find that when dealing with people who are being intentionally insensitive, especially when it comes to equality, the best response is to keep asking them to explain themselves

ā€œWho puts what where?ā€

With a straight face: ā€œWhat do you mean?ā€

ā€œLike if they both got the same parts, who puts what where?ā€

Still straight faced only slower this time as tho speaking to a mentally challenged person: ā€œWhat exactly is it that donā€™t you understand?ā€

Rinse and repeat. This also works great with racist or other off color jokes. Again, with a straight face just say, ā€œI donā€™t get itā€ and ask them to explain the joke. They will almost always quickly realize just how stupid they sound