what do you think Ukrainian government is overstating in its propaganda? the amount of war crimes and genocide?
I think they are inflating the numbers of Russian casualties and understating the numbers of their own casualties. In a similar vein, they are showing off destroyed Russian tanks but not their own etc. I suspect this is mostly for morale purposes.
What other deceptions do you think those sneaky Ukrainians are engaged in? Invading their own country and bombing their own civillians, perhaps? Biolabs? Covid bats?
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I donāt know. But every facet of news that comes out of Ukraine through Ukrainian and western outlets is going to be biased and filtered in the direction of Ukraine.
That should have been your cue to shut the fuck up and fold pre.
But yet, here you are facing a bet and you have no idea what to do. So, what are the Ukrainians lying about? Iāll wait.
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And stop you from making up whatever youāve hallucinated Iāve said?
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I listened to 25 mins of recent Mearsheimer. The actual video itself is in my opinion quite worse than the quoted twitter texts.
- Mearsheimer states Ukraine war was a response to existential threat to Russia.
- Mearsheimer states that Russia has shown little intention of actually annexing Ukraine into a part of greater Russia.
- Mearsheimer states Putin hasnāt shown to be a land grabber in Ukraine and Putin has not said at any point during this war that Eastern Ukraine will be annexed into greater Russia. This is not a territorial land grab but an existential threat response.
- Mearsheimer says that this war will not end because USA wants Russia to lose at all costs, and because Russia is facing existential threat from NATO aggression Russia will not want to lose at all costs.
- Mearsheimer states this war is further evidence that the cause of this war was from NATO aggression.
- Mearsheimer says Zelenskyy currently dangling not joining NATO publicly is further proof that this is mostly about NATO.
- Mearsheimer states that Putin ordering war crimes is difficult to know since nobody knows what Putin is telling his underlings or the conversation Putin has with his generals.
- Mearsheimer states that the USA is arming Ukrainian civilians and urging them to fight, so that targeted civilian deaths could be the cause of armed Ukrainian civilians.
- Mearsheimer states that this is a war between USA and Russia.
Thereās a bunch more but these are the main points.
ROFL at every single one of these points. To counter them is a waste of everyoneās time.
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Judging by your synopsis, I would probably need a new TV if I had, so thanks for taking one for the team.
I was listening to it on speaker and my Polish girlfriend kept getting angrier and angrier LOL.
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Incredible Keeeeding.
Ask incredulously if we donāt think Ukraine is being deceptive, get asked what deceptions you think have been made, and then pretend weāre the ones making shit up
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I think he was talking about the both-sidesing rape and murder thing, which, while perhaps a tad hyperbolic, was not entirely made up either.
That guy could have just tied his own hands behind his back, shot himself in the back of the head, then decapitated himself. The truth is unknowable, really.
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Lol at goofy/keeed renaming wars. As technically the owner of this thread, I get notified every time.
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Same. I could only handle a few minutes that keeed teed up.
It seems to use the latest title, not the one given. Sometimes.
stares in Crimean
Ukrainian air defenses downed two ROFLcopters over Kyiv
If only Comrade Putin knew they were doing this! Someone must tell Comrade Putin! He would put a stop to it. Someone must tell him! Someone must tell Comrade Putin!
Could we lift the C word ban just for this thread please?
Could just ban K**** instead.
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Start a RFC
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You could just get a life and find something better to do than trolling about war crimes, thatās always an option.