Walrus IV reveal Thread. Kingvaldo Collab.

Ill be doing it before too long and cat 7… just gimme a few days to recharge the collator

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u like Pantera? gotta give it up to the singer Phil Anselmo in that live video. Just perfect pitch… and that melody is unreal. lol The camera pans for a quick moment trying to find him, before spotting him in that unorthodox seated-with-his-back-to-the-audience position. What he sacrificed in stage presence lol he made up for with just perfect vocal delivery.

Shame he’s a white supremacist, but hey. I can separate the art from the artist.

separate the art from the act

GANDHI: Forgive my stupid illustration. But I want to change their minds – not kill them for weaknesses we all possess.

ChrisV might be alluding to an incident where Phil Anselmo did a nazi salute and shouted White Power at a concert. His explanation/apology iirc was he was drunk and a guy in the front row was heckling him the whole time calling him a racist. He lost his temper and thought “you think I am racist? I am gonna give you racist”.
I leave it up as an exercise to the reader how credible they find this.

Not really but I haven’t listened to much of their stuff.

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Yeah, I think micro has had a conversation with me before about it. There’s a video here that starts with footage of the Anselmo incident and goes into Robb Flynn of Machine Head talking about why he doesn’t buy Anselmo’s explanation. Couple excerpts:

Flynn also claims that earlier that night, when he was chatting with Anselmo, he used the N-word to describe how much he hated a particular era of Machine Head and how the band sounded.

Machine Head went nu-metal for a while there, that’s what Anselmo is talking about.

Flynn says his band has been having a “huge” discussion about whether he should comment about the situation, but he decided to do so because “I had to stand on f ing stage with you – and granted, I wasn’t onstage anymore when you said all that stupid shit. No, I was only onstage when we were playing [Pantera’s] ‘A New Level’ and you were sieg heil-ing after the ‘and power’ like you’ve done forever now. And nobody calls you on it. No bands call you on it. I’ve talked to people on so many tours. ‘Yeah, Anselmo’s up there sieg heil-ing and mouthing the words ‘white power.’ ‘Why don’t you call him on it?’ ‘Oh, because I love Pantera, man, and who wants to start shit with him?’

Even in one of the songs micro posted, you get this:

In the states there’s a problem with race
Because of ignorant past burnt fires
From evolution we’ve been killing each other
I figure man should have it down to a science

But then:

You blame oppression and play the role of criminals
To rape and burn shows progress is minimal

Mmm. So yeah, I don’t think it’s an isolated thing from Anselmo.

That said, I quite like Pantera. I’m not someone who thinks that nothing someone says, or no art they make, has worth if they have reprehensible opinions in other areas. I think that’s a really toxic idea. It’s fundamentally the same idea as the idea that criminals aren’t fully fledged human beings; it’s fascist.

My favourite Pantera song is probably this one, even though it’s musically very simple and the lyrics are juvenile, as even Phil later admitted. There’s an unbridled ferocity in it that I enjoy. I also like this:

You’re working for perfect bodies
Perfect minds and perfect neighbors
But I’m helping to legalize dope on your pristine streets
And I’m making a fortune

Oh also, I considered submitting the Anselmo-fronted Down for the Texas category, but they’re not very accessible and I wasn’t sure it would go down well. It’s also questionably Texas given their first album is called NOLA. Their best song is Bury Me In Smoke, but it’s 7 minutes long. I’d probably have submitted Hail the Leaf:

Yes, they do quite like weed, why do you ask?

The era of pants

pants means rubbish in Britain

Dude is obviously problematic, but in the context of where he came from and where he was he was not reprehensible. And when they were big in the late 80s and early 90s in the metal scene, with that audience, those songs were him actually telling a fair amount of neo-nazi skinheads to be less racist and them actually listening to him. Or that’s what it seemed like at the time anyway.

again… who fucking cares.

purity tests for everyone. get in everyone’s closet. then we can debate who’s wholesome enough to listen to, I guess.

Mother Falcon look like a bunch of college students who were in their high school bands, so they might qualify.

Oh and jal, the most-overrated/underrated-band-thread was just bumped in the lounge. Lol A-Rod’s Cousin lit your boyfriend Kurt Cobain up in that motherfucker.

weaknesses we all possess

@Rivaldo is a racist for ranking Pantera over the mars volta

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i would never want to host a walrus game because i wouldn’t want everyone thinking every time they see me post something outside of the walrus thread thinking, “wtf is this guy doing? why isn’t he doing the walrus? does he have zero attention span? is he so lazy that it’s like, a disability, or am i allowed be mad at him for this? why does he hate the mars volta for being ambitious? why can’t he grow personally and intellectually and recognize the mars volta as a top tier rock band?”

sounds like a lot of stress

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I want to host so I can be mean as hell in a socially accepted format. Plus everybody wants a taste of being God.

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nice easy pace guys lol

jeez louise

I’ll get back to listening to the instrumentals tomorrow, and may get to the reveal before King does his on wednesday

It won’t be long. Soon you will see!

King is coming … King is coming

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As always it depends where you want to draw the line. I doubt anyone listens to Gary Glitter or the Lost Prophets any more but your common or garden racists like Mr Pant or Mr Morrissey present a tricky problem.

Comedian Stewart Lee’s take on the end of his love affair with the music of The Smiths:

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