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Apparently they reversed the camera controls in Mario 64 and didn’t leave in the option for the original control scheme.

They are really asking 60€ for the new Baldurs Gate 3 early access. Thats pretty expensive in my mind and after the disaster of the new Wow addon I am not sure I want to preorder again. Probably gonna check out some streams and my favourite bg-streamer first.

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Pretty sure I’ll never buy an early access game unless they do an amazing job of selling a sob story about not being able to eat and still work on a 1.0. Terrible trend.

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What’s with the new WOW add on? I’m out of that loop completely

Delayed. It should have been released on the 27th of october. I actually planned 2 two weeks of vacation around it because my real holiday wasnt going to happen. But prepatch didnt happen and few days ago they postponed it until a later date but they still want to launch this year somehow.
The alpha/beta testers said for month that stuff doesnt work. Hell some baseline abilities didnt even work. They made few new systems which made the game pretty complicated. Recent sim numbers showed that some classes made double the damage of others or some classes relied so heavy on some of the new systems that its a joke because it meant these classes suck ass in their natural form.

I think at this point I’m more likely to back a Kickstarter for something than buy it in early access and play the unfinished version. I feel like it has to follow a specific sort of model and be a type of game that benefits from repeat plays to avoid getting burnt out before the final release - think StS or Hades (didn’t play the latter but I assume it worked). I got Wildermyth in EA because it sounded awesome and I thought it might benefit from the same development pattern but I played through it once or twice and that was enough.

Early access model is one of the worst things that has ever happened to gaming.

“What if we could get people to buy an unfinished product and then never finish it?”

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I’ve spent like 200 dollars on ck2 expansion packs, I’m not about to switch to fucking vanilla ck3.

Also I heard that ck3 is less RPG-y than ck2, anyone know if that’s true?

Rimworld was probably the best early access game either. I’m good with tiny developers doing it. Baldurs Gate 3 is not being made by a tiny developer and it being EA is idiotic.

It has less events, and less flavor for different cultures and religions.

On the plus side, the new stress factor is more RPG-y - if you take actions against your traits it stresses you, so characters do feel a bit different.

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But NMS was rightly blasted for it. And that was honestly a failure of marketing - they advertised it as being way more than it was.

If NMS had been early access no one would’ve batted an eye and I think that’s a problem. You’re buying into a promise that doesn’t necessarily have to be fulfilled, and also beta testing for the developer (and beta is being generous, in some cases, it’s more like alpha) for free.

I think when done in good faith (and with competence) it has potential to churn out high quality games, I just have seen too many times where it’s gone horribly wrong. I read that something like only 25% of early access games reach release.

so if you’re a deceitful schemer and you don’t go around murdering people you get stressed? Basically like how Dexter would get stressed out if he’s doesn’t murder someone for a while?

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Haha - they haven’t implemented stress yet for not doing things. But basically if you’re shy and attend a feast (or really talk to anyone) you get stressed. Same if you’re kind and try to kill someone.

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This is really it. Early access games are just games that the developer promises to keep working on. Either it’s worth the money the day you buy it or it isn’t. A lot of great games have come through EA over the last 10 years, but I can’t think of many that were truly half baked in EA.

Early Access seems to be what I feared Kickstarter would be whereas Kickstarted games have a pretty good track record afaict. Anyone know of KS games that have gone badly? I remain leery of backing games because there’s still real downside but I’d still rather do that than buy something in EA.

I just think any trend that encourages people to lower their standards on what content they’re willing to pay full price for is a bad trend. As a society we’ve already become satisfied on shit new music and film. I don’t want to see games go the same way, because IMO games are at an all-time peak right now. Not that EA is gonna bring about the demise of high quality games, but I believe it is a stepping stone.

And I don’t and won’t pay for early access games until they’re finished.

This, Radical Fish had Crosscode in EA for years and the game turned out to be a lot better because of it, I’m sure. For some games, that feedback available outside of bets testing can be invaluable to the finished product.

I think my point was more that certain types of games work better as EA not that it’s always bad and you should never do it.

Mighty No 9 I think is the worst example

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Prison architect was in EA for multiple years

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