UNOfficial Community Vote: Unstuck Politics is a democracy

jeez

All this just because your nose was out of joint when you were excluded from nmnm.

Some people. :roll_eyes:

Always reverting to the ā€œhaha you’re not invited to our clubhouseā€ taunts, a paragon of maturity.

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It’s true though and we all know it.

Your pettiness and spitefulness know no bounds, but they are possibly the only interesting things about you.

  • a ā€˜yes’ vote means we are committing to some form of democracy going forward.

  • a ā€˜no’ vote means that going forward, we won’t be using any form of democracy.

Among other things, a ā€˜no’ vote would mean that proposing binding community votes like this thread, and the other current binding vote thread re: Commonwealth, would be out-of-order as applications of democracy.

I didn’t vote in this poll because the premise doesn’t make any sense. If this place is not a democracy then the poll is meaningless and if it is the poll won’t change it.

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I’m pretty sure everyone you guys excluded from your tree house has their nose out of joint about it because a lot of the people who left for NMNM were great, thoughtful posters whose loss has left UP worse off.

Paragon of maturity.

Getting rid of RFCs was dumb.

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This is because Jal and his friends aren’t allowed to call someone by their real name or an old screen name they requested be stopped. That’s how petty this is.

Another lie.

NO
ONE
HAS
USED
C*** ROUNDER’S
REAL
NAME

(apart from c*** rounder)

Cite or go away.

Jal is trying to argue that because they made a pun on CW’s name, which was easily identifiable what his real name was, there should be no consequences.

That’s how fucking stupid he thinks everyone else is.

Also, he still is mad because he can’t call someone by their real name, puns of their real name, or old screen name. He’s mad because he truly hates CW because of shit that started nearly 4 years ago now, and he’s a fountain of toxicity for all of UP.

How is his real name easily identifiable?

Jal if you’re mistaken if I’m going to, for one minute, treat your obvious sealioning trolling as anything than absurd bullshit. I’ll be happy to explain to other people what the fuck you’re talking about, but we’re not doing that dance together.

If someone’s real name was Tom Thumb and a poster referred to him as Tom Dumb, how would that help anyone identify his real name?

This is what Jalfrezi actually believes.

I am not entirely sure what I’m voting on here.

I don’t generally follow the moderation threads too closely, but I gather that part of the issue is mod powers? E.g. can mods unilaterally hand out bans for stuff that has not been specified?

Given that, I voted ā€œnoā€ on democracy. My reasoning is: every website needs moderation. It’s not like a site is going to have ā€œpureā€ modding democracy, where every user votes on every single mod decision.

It’s more like: elect a mod, then let the mod do modding his/her/their way. If the mod goes off the rails, there should be a way to recall him/her them.

This is similar to having a sheriff, I guess. You can’t vote on everything a sheriff does. The sheriff has to be the one to make the charging/jailing (banning/silencing?) decisions. There is discretion inherent in this. Not all cases can follow written rules.

If the sheriff sucks, then vote them out and vote another one in.

So honestly I think the poll is kind of useless as written. I did pick an answer based on what I thought was going on. I think a more specific question would be more useful. I’m not sure what the OP (original pollster) was getting at.

I guess I would say, in general, sure, try a democracy. With regard to modding in particular though, it almost has to be anti-democratic. Or at least have some non-democracy features.

Just my 2 cents without knowing a lot of the background.

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Well…

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You are reading things in that aren’t there, In this case, the word ā€œpureā€. There is no such thing anyways. Again, I can’t imagine why a few folks are imagining all this nonsense.

It’s a political junkee website. I never imagined the unqualified word ā€˜democracy’ would throw some folks for a loop. I guess I’ll try again. To the extent it makes sense on a website, do we want stuff like this…

I guess I’m fine saying ā€œin general the site should be a democracyā€ (not sure if I would add ā€œwhen possibleā€ at the end).

However in the specific context of modding there are areas where democracy should be practiced (removing a mod if the community does not like the overall job they are doing), and areas where I would say democracy is not the answer (specific modding decisions).

I thought he poll was prompted more by the latter type of discussion. Like I said though, I could be wrong on that.

Benevolent zikzak Stalin theocracy is preferred choice, but

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