Ukraine, Russia, and the West

There’s video of like 8 tanks coming in, who knows how many came in before or after. I find it hard to believe Putin sent 8 tanks across the border and left them out to dry.

meme SA and me

This.

Also, fuck.

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My guess is most short wars don’t have enough opportunities for war crimes.

I have been watching major wars and world events happen in real time since Iraq War 1.0. This isn’t what they look like.

That may be coming, and very soon. But to me it increasingly seems like it has not happened yet. So far all I have seen evidence of is limited air and missile strikes against a small number of targets. I do not think the scale of what has happened is anywhere near what we were led to believe a couple hours ago.

I’m definitely in the wrong, just due to these:

A rarity though.

This site was mentioned before itt. Not sure how reliable but they have info up relatively quickly.

https://twitter.com/BNONews/status/1496725856785674241?t=_HPujYcNrFfL1y6Ii9CauA&s=19

Seems premature to send in vulnerable aircraft while air defenses are still active.

To speculate wildly on how “quiet” things are: Maybe Putin is giving Zelensky a last chance to capitulate. Or maybe Russia != Putin means military or other Russian power players weren’t on board and got him to reconsider.

Lol, come on man

Never hear of BNO before tonight, but they also reported this:
https://twitter.com/BNONews/status/1496728584836489224?cxt=HHwWkIDRhfmtucUpAAAA
Both could be true, I guess.

well, there’s no land targets that you can get to in a day to ukraine from russia’s border

belarus isn’t that far from kiev tho

they took out some airfields and other air things even in lviv which is nowhere near anything except poland

they just bussed into donbas since that’s friendly territory

as noted this could be a giving them time to surrender thing first

Missed that one. Yeah, both reports could be true and Russia’s Defense Ministry just wrong.

The list of maybes that run through your head is endless. Feel bad for those there.

cause russia always disinfo’s–the disinfo is going to be wild with this

I’d guess some skirmish happened somewhere in the east tho.

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I think we’ve learned again tonight that Twitter and Reddit are often full of shit on details in the moment.

Back to Twitter and Reddit for the latest, we’ll know which posts we read were accurate in a few days…

https://twitter.com/ThomasVLinge/status/1495978202728210435

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No, at the last instant he did a 180 and profited immensely.

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MSNBC just showed more tanks and missile launchers coming across the same border crossing. It’s kind of surreal that Russia hasn’t taken that camera out yet.

There are reports that Poland, Lithuania and Slovakia have also invoked Article 4 of NATO, along with Latvia.

They probably should. Article 5 is the WW3 level scary one.

What does that mean?