Ukraine, Russia, and the West

Triggering Article 5 is a wilful act on the part of member countries. It’s not like a munitions dump catching on fire or something that can happen by accident.

I mean if you don’t genuinely think that NATO countries might be like “welp, there’s some kind of cyber attack on British Airways and there could well have been Russian state involvement, guess we all have to launch World War 3” then don’t post it. If that does sound like a genuine possibility to you, stop posting entirely.

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I understand how Article 5 works. Maybe you should take it up with the Secretary General of NATO, because if he didn’t think it was a possibility he shouldn’t have said it publicly.

If you take a few words out and make it,

“There’s a cyber attack on British Airways and there was Russian state involvement, guess we all have to launch World War 3."

Yeah that’s feasible. A cyber attack on a NATO member could definitely start WW3 right now.

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A cyberattack on the Fortnite servers would probably trigger Article 5. Or the Steam servers.

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We couldn’t even keep the Russians out of the Olympics they were banned from.

I’m just feeling better and better about Bulgaria. Last leg is Vienna to Bucharest and then a car service into Bulgaria and the plant.

Do we have to do this?

Cyber attack started days ago… still no WWIII

Cyber experts have identified a new strain of computer-disabling malware unleashed on Ukrainian targets as part of Russia’s offensive, as the UK government and banks said they were on alert for online attacks.

Is Ukraine in NATO, @Churchill?

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Guess the trolling is going to move to this thread now.

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No but it’s hard to limit interwebs attacks to Ukraine as all pc’s are linked by the interwebs?

You’ve been trolling this thread for days now

they said increased radiation levels is likely due to dust being kicked up by military vehicles and munitions.

Understood… but increased radiation levels are not ideal, whatever the cause

You sound just as smart as Senator Ted Stevens, “the Internet is a series of tubes.”

This very thread could trigger Article 5.

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This thread has been really really good and useful. Please take a second before trolling the thread and ask “is this beneficial”?

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it should trigger a few RFC as well, when the dust settles

https://twitter.com/Tar_Milus/status/1497298056844398594

Alexi Drew, a senior analyst at RAND Europe, a research institute, said cyber offensives carried the risk of escalating rapidly if attacks spill over widely into other countries, although in the case of HermeticWiper the malware does not appear to be self-propogating, whereas NotPetya was able to spread. Further attacks, however, could be different, she added. “There’s a history of cyber-attacks not staying where they’re meant to go. If you look at NotPetya, the splash damage there was significant. There is a danger here of escalation because offensive cyber activity is fundamentally not very good at staying where you put it.”

I highly doubt NATO will trigger article 5 on the basis of a spilled cyber attack