Ukrainians sure seem to like cats.
Hahahahaha
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I’m writing down the date because I agree with Victor!
It seems like people think that for it to be a “real” genocide, there has to be death camps or forced marches, etc.
It’s a matter of intent vs execution. I (and the ICC) and many in here see the intent to commute genocide as, you know, genocide. But if it helps people understand it more, then fine, differentiate between the Holocaust and what’s happening here as genocide vs. intent to do genocide (or, nascent genocide? Like, they’re starting and are on their way to full on adult-sized genocide?)
To me there’s no reason to argue these semantics. I lied. Maybe there is:
How we react is another question. If we had acted earlier in WWII how many Jewish lives would have been saved? Don’t we argue about this in history class?
A good read as a parallel reading of NATO being the instigation of Russia’s aggression. The various color revolutions as a influence creeping around Russia from all sides
Still, nothing is working. The revolution keeps relentlessly creeping towards Moscow: the Euromaidan protests in Ukraine lead to the Revolution of Dignity, prompting Putin’s annexation of Crimea and fomentation of the war in the Donbass. The possible success and permanence of the revolution in Ukraine is probably the gravest threat yet to Putin’s regime, which I believe explains the desperation and extremity of the measures it has taken against it, now including outright invasion. Ukraine is the product of revolution in several senses and therefore a total anathema: in Putin’s eyes, it’s product of the Bolshevik revolution’s despoliation of the Russian Empire, then the collapse of the Soviet Union, and then it consolidated under Orange Revolution and the Euromaidan.
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So this happened in Russia? This dude needs to GTFO.
It’s unfortunate that people can’t resist reading “genocide” as “the Holocaust” and “the Holocaust” as “Auschwitz.” A much better match for what seems to be going on is what the Nazis and the Soviets did in Poland in 1939/40, which was to murder everyone who might be a source of resistance to the regime in the future. It’s important to understand that the Nazis did this years before they ever set up an extermination camp, and that they did it to make it easier to operate their extermination camps (and to pursue other genocidal crimes like ethnic cleansing of the Poles) when the time came.
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According to wikipedia, these things have a self-destruct timer of no more than a day, which makes them a lot more legitimate as weapons than it seems at first blush.
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How about if we all collectively agree to stop comparing anything to any part of WWII? History has plenty of other bad events suitable for various analogies. Open up ranges a bit.
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There is nothing wrong with comparing genocides taking place in a war in Eastern Europe in 2022 with genocides that took place all over Europe in WW2.
Or maybe you would prefer only genocides that took place during American occupation? Let’s open the range up and bring out the good old genocides that happened during the Mongol invasions.
Normally fair but this is basically the soviets doing Soviet things so it seems like that’s reasonable
That’s just what the nazis want.
I wrote that as a joke but then I realized there’s probably some truth to it. o_O
I think it’s appropriate to call Putin’s regime a Nazi regime.