Ukraine Invasion 2: no more Black Sea fleet for you

If the situation is somewhat stable the West can just slow the flow of arms. They’d be welcome to try but without a continuing supply of weapons, ammo, and spare parts it will be hard for Ukraine to forcibly dislodge Putin. Maybe they can negotiate access to ports to move grain or whatever. I mean gas is still flowing across Ukraine-- business is business.

The difficulty here is that NATO countries must continue to arm Ukraine because Russia is not trustworthy to abide by any deal as soon as they think they have restored their military advantage. It’s massively in the interest of “quiet” to arm Ukraine so as to prevent the Russians from getting any fancy ideas about coming back. However, any arms provided to that end could also be used to try to retake lost ground.

Any chance there are some new technologies in play that make this possible?

bellingcat is reporting in recaptured Trostyants, experts found traces sarin gas “weapons “ that may have been stored there.

Have your cake.
https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/1515449957339303940?t=l3_3-w5rG27nCr4AIgDIzw&s=19
And eat it, too.
https://twitter.com/sentdefender/status/1514995302272585730?t=MnBoIkHul_UKEZ6tRFGrnA&s=19

This isn’t the same as the false reports of ampoules of sarin that were just Russian test kits for chemical weapons, is it?

Technically true. They are just leaving out the part where the fire was caused by a Ukrainian missile.

Like cloaking devices for tanks and infantry fighting vehicles?

yeah, I’m not sure what I was thinking exactly. I don’t really have a grasp on all the logistics involved.

I just remember reading up on the technological progress on force fields a couple years back.

ETA Satellites are the main source of info right? Seems like if they can make force fields that can block shockwaves they could provide stealth cover.

Right, but (keeping it the realm of conventional warfare) can Russia actually “restore” a military advantage?

This is all part of their special operation that is going according to plan and meeting objectives.

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I’m not sure this necessarily means nukes. If Putin gets fed up and wants to go full mass-murder, surely chemical weapons and conventional ballistic missiles could do that without crossing the international nuclear taboo.

NATO won’t have an unlimited appetite for sanctions and won’t be 100 percent renewables any time soon.

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the town mayor is quoted as saying several people experienced choking and other physical symptoms during shelling or bombing attacks.

true, but i don’t see what his dwindling number of missiles or even chemical attacks will net. capturing mariupol to make a show of a few hundred azov? they will need to hold it afterwards, and that’s going to be very hard if not impossible, and it will stretch for months.

a nuke is the only thing ukraine ultimately cannot counter. every other option seems to imply that ultimately russia will not hold the territory.

Those super sophisticated $120k “reconnaissance drones” seem pretty flexible… literally.

(In reference to this)

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Take what some mayor says with a grain of salt. I have seen reports like this and the most likely explanation wasn’t a chemical attack but the shelling hitting some chemicals that the caused those reactions.

I think lawyers are more than primarily farmed out. They might be exclusively farmed out. It’s possible to have an entirely military medical education. So at least some of the doctors are grown in house. However, I don’t think there is a military law school, so they have to get the lawyers from outside.

Moved the military enlistment talk to this thread.

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