Ukraine Invasion 2: no more Black Sea fleet for you

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I’m not sure this necessarily means nukes. If Putin gets fed up and wants to go full mass-murder, surely chemical weapons and conventional ballistic missiles could do that without crossing the international nuclear taboo.

NATO won’t have an unlimited appetite for sanctions and won’t be 100 percent renewables any time soon.

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the town mayor is quoted as saying several people experienced choking and other physical symptoms during shelling or bombing attacks.

true, but i don’t see what his dwindling number of missiles or even chemical attacks will net. capturing mariupol to make a show of a few hundred azov? they will need to hold it afterwards, and that’s going to be very hard if not impossible, and it will stretch for months.

a nuke is the only thing ukraine ultimately cannot counter. every other option seems to imply that ultimately russia will not hold the territory.

Those super sophisticated $120k “reconnaissance drones” seem pretty flexible… literally.

(In reference to this)

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Take what some mayor says with a grain of salt. I have seen reports like this and the most likely explanation wasn’t a chemical attack but the shelling hitting some chemicals that the caused those reactions.

I think lawyers are more than primarily farmed out. They might be exclusively farmed out. It’s possible to have an entirely military medical education. So at least some of the doctors are grown in house. However, I don’t think there is a military law school, so they have to get the lawyers from outside.

Moved the military enlistment talk to this thread.

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you will eventually see this in the news if true. brllingcat confirmed the mayor’s story. there are actual experts following the people complaints and doing testing.

https://twitter.com/Odessa_Journal/status/1515399841236541443?t=1-3Hjl7npbGDdwTD_gR7xg&s=19

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Was looking for a road sign pointing the way to Russia, just had to wait a few seconds.

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https://twitter.com/sentdefender/status/1515546186903654400

https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1515629956495286275?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1515629956495286275|twgr^|twcon^s1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.redditmedia.com%2Fmediaembed%2Fliveupdate%2F18hnzysb1elcs%2FLiveUpdate_7c35d572-be3b-11ec-9ecc-eea77846a3d3%2F0

https://twitter.com/ilvestoomas/status/1515368358010572802?s=21

brutal video in second tweet

Looks like they weren’t tourists but local residents, and the bartender was Ukrainian. This is a town town with a lot of Russian expats apparently.

Then Ruslan Povolvyy, a friend of the owner of the bar, tried to intercede and also asked them to leave the place. But as they spoke, the three Russian men began to get more nervous as they intuited, from his accent, his place of origin . “They asked me where I was from,” he explained to the regional television À punt . " I told them that from Ukraine" and, as he admits, he added: “Glory Ukraine” .

Immediately, the three men, who according to consulted sources of the Civil Guard have already been identified pending their arrests , began to beat him. At first, the owner and two other women try to separate them, without success, cornering the man between the wall of the premises and the door of the toilets.

Lol at this comment:

https://twitter.com/tuhatjalkainen/status/1515370019265421316

FWIW I was treated wonderfully in Irkutsk and Lake Baikal, Russia, and by Russian tourists coming back to Russia from Tianjin, China.

But it’s possible that like a lot of our older and larger amygdala relatives, they’ve been whipped into a very bad state by decades of propaganda.

consider that you’ve only met maybe five percent of one thousandth of one percent of russians in your life.

also russians are nice in general, but they got their triggers like everyone else. one is their children, noone can’t ever say anything of any ill or harm to their children, bringing it up is a threat and brings pure pain. the other is russian political history/present, the blood starts boiling if a foreigner or expat tries to make a russian “feel” anything sad/critical about any period, going back to at least tsar peter.

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Even Russian expats who aren’t being force fed propaganda 24/7?

That’s the weirdest part of it. If they live outside of Russia, they must have more access to the truth. If, knowing that, they are still pro-Putin, then they are far worse than the average Russian.

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Well then at least Sting was right.

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https://twitter.com/ArthurKei_UA/status/1515715130503352321