The Television Streaming Thread: Part II - Hot Takes, Jags Fans, and Bert

Not sure how i missed that but I did. Need to check that one out as well i guess.

Checked out Woodstock Episode 1. So far, it seems less sanctimonious than the HBO special which had way too many pop culture critics and Moby. So far, thereā€™s a lot more musicians and people actually involved in the production.

No new information but this is definitely the better documentary so far.

Also, Iā€™m very surprised that they didnā€™t block the face of the girls showing their tits. Safe bet that some of those girls were underage (or at least on the border of that). Hell, one of the attendees interviewed was 14 at the time and I imagine that she probably needed some counseling after she got out of there.

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Iā€™m 2 episodes in and was wondering about all the nudity stuff. Find it hard to believe they really tracked all of those people down and made sure they were 18+ and got their ok to put them on screen.

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Ringer films did a doc on it last year that was good, it was on HBO.

Edit: ponied

Their Jagged Little Pill doc was also solid.

Jeez, fine, Iā€™ll watch the Woodstock docuseries, gosh. *

*based on belief all is legal and consensual

Iā€™m having a real hard time with them trying to frame Woodstock 99 as counterculture. It was the most mainstream, heavily commercialized thing imaginable.

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First half of Bluey S3 has been released on Disney. Being stuck at home with COVID with my son and trying not to get to close to him, we watched every episode twice. Theyā€™re all amazing per usual

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My cousinā€™s son got a Bluey garbage truck for his 2nd birthday and I guess theyā€™ve never heard of the show. Iā€™m going to put it on for him next time I watch him, Iā€™ve laughed out loud at that show

Youā€™re definitely right, but I think part of the story is that some of the organizers had a less commercial goal and some of the organizers had a very commercial goal.

I would also say that in 1999 (I remember! I was there!) your average young person was not nearly as attuned to the bullshit of capitalism and commercialism. They would have been much less skeptical of the marketing based on tie dye patterns and so forth.

Every festival since has been, the major ones are just much better organized

Watched Woodstock 99. Legit nuts.

Itā€™s crazy how mosh culture changed. When I was young in the late 80s early 90s it was a totally safe space for everyone. Number one rule was if someone fell you picked them up. It was never about hurting people and women were in the mix all the time.

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There are still all sorts of genuine counterculture festivals that happen. Theyā€™re just, ldo, not mainstream.

Itā€™s like that now too, just saw a small few outliers.

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Good to know. Some of my favourite memories are getting exhausted in moss pits.

Women being groped while crowd surfing has always been a thing, though.

Men too, just not as often.

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True but I think it was mostly unintentional from my experience. Obviously not always.

I went to an all nude punk show once. Getting groped there was hard to avoid!

Aye laddie. Me favorite memories are crawling out of the bogs too tired tae dance.

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You arenā€™t wrong. My takeaway is that itā€™s a good look into late 90s/early 2000s white bro culture. Thats the interesting part to me.

No clue on the HBO one but the Netflix one definitely sees it the same way i do. In other words there is no attempt to sell the festival as counterculture. Quite the opposite.

I think itā€™s a very critical and honest look at it. Virtually everyone involved looks bad. As they should.