The Television Streaming Thread: Now With Felonies

Let me think. You are definitely missing out.

The last 3-4 episodes are actually pretty great, just watch them.

smrk nails the problems with Voyager. The cast is boring outside of Janeway the Doctor and 7 of 9. There are still some great episodes, though. I watched the whole thing through for the first time this past year. I liked it.

Buncha Star Trek nerds ITT. Live long and prosper, dorks.

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I just really hated the first officer, Chipotle, and couldn’t get past that. Also of course Nelix but whatever. But ok so they’re chasing these traitors and then some stuff happens and you’re putting one of the traitors second in command of the ship and the other in charge of the engineering department? The fuck? Maybe that could be a storyline where the traitors slowly gain the trust of the crew and become valued members as they fight to get back home, but day one they’re putting this traitorous rebel scum second in command of the ship. Bad!

Sisqo would have hanged them. Picard would have lectured them into submission. Janeway immediately puts him into a position of high responsibility without having earned any redemption.

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You know who I feel bad for, Harry Kim. He never committed treason or did the illegal and dangerous Lorenzian Starburst at the Academy and almost killed Wes Crusher (so close!), earning a severe lecture from Captain Picard. But he had to stay a goddamn ensign for like 12 years while taking orders from a literal traitor.

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Clerks got added to HBOmax, this one and 2nd one are great imo

Let’s watch it at least 36 times

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In a row?

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I’ll do you one better.

Wait, no…wait, no I won’t. GODDAMMIT YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN.

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Try not to watch it on your way through the parking lot!

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I would be down for a Clerks watch party for sure

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watched Midway on HBOMAX, was solid. I thought i knew the story from the older Midway movie but this one was based off a book from the 80s by a couple of the intelligence guys depicted in the movie and is more accurate.

The original plays it out like we just lucked out into catching them off guard when they attacked midway but turns out we had broken enough of their code to know they were attacking and had a trap set. Pretty cool.

The battle scenes were really well done especially the dive bombing, really harrowing shit to do that as the dive bomber crews. Real bravery for sure.

Also the pearl harbor attack scene was kinda surreal for me, I never saw the movie Pearl Harbor cuz people said it sucked so no comparison to that for me but it still kinda gut punched me.

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If you are not excited for this pairing, you must hate joy.

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The actual attack scene in Pearl Harbor is a pretty good scene, typical Michael Bay action scene, really well done visually with great explosions and framing of shots. Only thing that kinda ruined it was there are multiple shots where there are modern USN warships shown at Pearl. Like a bunch of Spruance class destroyers, lol. Michael Bay dgaf about historical accuracy, that’s for sure. And whatever, only naval history nerds would care about that, fair I guess. But it’s a thrilling action scene, very well done with practical effects and CGI blended together. Still looks great.

Although in one shot of Pearl you can see the Arizona memorial, which, lol.

I liked Midway as well. It’s true that USA#1 kinda reverse ambushed the Japanese but it was still a very close-run thing. If a few things had broken another way all three US carriers could have been sunk. Although that wouldn’t have actually really mattered. The US built 24 fleet carriers that were more capable than the ones at Midway in the next three years, the Japanese built like one or two more carriers during that time.

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Yea I didn’t notice either of the things you mentioned. Agreed on it being a close run thing and I think they showed it as such. I enjoyed the short Doolittle raid part as well.

One thing that was bugging me and I assume they changed it to be correct on this one, maybe you know cuz I’m too lazy to look it up

In the original it was made a big deal that the Japanese were swapping out munitions on the deck of the carrier and that’s how the bombers were able to do so much damage but in this one the planes were all being refitted below deck. There is like one or two mentions where they show the guy running the downstairs and he makes mention of it but in the original it was all kinds of planes on deck of the carrier with munitions.

Those inaccuracies I mentioned were in Michael Bay’s Pearl Harbor, not Midway. Midway seemed pretty historically accurate. Which, kinda unusual for a Roland Emmerich film.

That the Japanese carrier decks were full of planes that were in the middle of munitions swapped out for an anti-shipping strike instead of a land attack strike was a myth that I think arose from a Japanese naval officer who was telling a self-serving account of the battle. This was the dominant American view of the battle until an American naval historian actually talked to some Japanese people and they told him, uh, bro, that dude is a known liar, you people actually believe that bullshit? I didn’t read the book that set the American historical record straight (Shattered Sword) but I watched a youtube lecture by the guy and it was pretty interesting. The bombs did so much damage because the Japanese flight decks were unarmored, as were the Americans. So the bombs dropped all the way down to the hanger decks where there was fueled and armed planes, as well as fuel bunkers and magazines. Boom. The British carriers had armored flight decks and those same bombs would just bounce off.

Oh ok, yea I read that the new midway they made sure was very historically accurate so i figured they got it right but it featured so prominently in the first one that I was thinking about it a lot during the movie.

Also the thing about the flight decks being unarmored crossed my mind during the movie so I must have heard that before probably from my dad. My dad was a huge ww2 and history buff so I saw all those old war movies as a kid, most notably remembering midway/the longest day/battle of the bulge.

His dad was a marine that was stationed in the pacific during the war but on some sort of ship and not as a infantryman, I need to get the full story on that but I get the feeling he didn’t talk to my dad about it much. I heard they had to take some small island at some point but I think he meant small like really small, not Okinawa/Iwo Jima small.

I have his marine insignia pin I believe that my dad gave me.