https://twitter.com/songadaymann/status/1521572377234182145?s=20&t=2sdzWTqi5E_oMrm_vT7lGg
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For the purposes of this poll, short snippets that have been quoted in news stories or shared via social media donât count as reading part of the draft.
Which describes you:
- Iâve read the leaked draft opinion.
- Iâve read part of the leaked draft opinion.
- I have not read it but plan on doing so.
- I have not read it and donât plan on reading it.
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I have been high many times in my life, but I have never been anything like high enough to think that âshut up and leave opposing the GOP agenda to the experts, THE DEMOCRATIC MEMBERS OF CONGRESSâ is a message that is going to go down well in the current climate.
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Itâs going to go down really well with the establishment base and really poorly with the rest of the base.
Like a lot of people I know on Facebook who would fit well into the Resistance Dems category are largely blaming Bernie Bros for not turning out for Hillary. Thereâs a lot of âHopefully this will finally teach them to vote blue no matter who,â sentiment. These types tend to believe anything and everything the Swalwells of the world say, and they tend to go for hope and optimism, so theyâre not big fans of looking at the Senate map two years out or getting too deep into the weeds of the why or how.
So theyâll donate and volunteer and vote for establishment candidates and heap scorn on progressives who stand up to the establishment when nothing changes from that approach.
Meanwhile, the aware/sharp/progressive base is basically in full fledged WAAF fight or flight mode now, and a lot of people are giving up on voting and either waiting for the system to collapse or looking to help out along. Their response range from calls to violence to âsurvive and cope.â
But circling back, all Swalwell cares about is triggering the donation response from the first group of people. He doesnât mind pissing off the rest.
At the end of the day both groups are right and wrong because itâs complicated and completely fucked. IMO the truth is that people who understand reality on this stuff are having a hard time accepting that shit is starting to hit the fan (thatâs me for sure) , and those caught off guard have not yet accepted the reality.
The reality is if we fight really hard in every election and we catch a few breaks and we never let up, we are likely but not certain to win these fights in 30-50 years. Anything better than that requires a miracle. In the mean time things will get worse and worse and then plateau before snapping back.
Hereâs one argument about the ultimate goals of Republicans and what might come next.
The late Paul Weyrich, whom Balmer called the organizational genius behind the religious right, had long tried to mobilize evangelical voters around some hot-button issue: feminism, school prayer, pornography, abortion. But nothing lit a fire like the federal governmentâs threat to all-white schools. Only in 1979, a full six years after Roe, did Weyrich urge evangelical leaders to also crusade against abortion, Balmer said in an interview. That was, after all, a far more palatable, acceptable crusade, one with a seeming high moral purpose, unlike a race-based crusade against black children.
This raises unsettling questions: How much of antiabortion rhetoric is really about the unborn, and how much is a convenient and even cynical cover for white evangelicals to support, as they did, a white supremacist like Roy Moore, in Alabama, or Trump himself, leader of the American birther movement and defender of neo-Nazis in Charlottesville, Va.?
That argument is convincing zero people on the religious right and I donât recommend that anyone try to use it to change any minds. They will hear two things and only two things:
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She used the lordâs name in vain, so they hate her for it.
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She believes in murder.
Period the end. Anyone who believes abortion is murder doesnât believe they are imposing their religion, they believe they are stopping murder.
Anyone who is politically pro life but doesnât believe it is murder is basically being disingenuous and itâs pointless to try to change their mind too.
If you want to try to change pro liferâs minds, you can appeal to:
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Exceptions for medical reasons, rape, or incest.
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The lack of aid for poor parents and the dilemma they face in deciding how to keep a child they cannot provide for.
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This wonât do much to decrease abortions, theyâll still happen, theyâll just be more dangerous. Then you have to propose ways to significantly reduce the number of abortions.
Thatâs about it and the success rate is going to be close to 0%. Theyâll nod and give lip service to 2 and 3, and might support 1 but wonât change any voting decisions based on it.
Like just about everything else, thereâs very little changing hearts and minds to be done. Thereâs turning out voters to vote for actually good candidates who will wield their power, and then there is winning and losing. Thatâs it, and we almost certainly need decades of wins to reverse this.
I think people forget how this disproportionately impacts the poor. You better believe the next mistress some pol gets pregnant will have no problem getting an abortion. Ditto for most upper middle class women with access to money and resources. This is the âcenterâ that isnât motivated by Roe v. Wade
Did anyone else know about this apparently unshakeable norm of no leaks from SCOTUS? Maybe Iâve gotten so accustomed to leaks that it seems normal, but this doesnât really bother me at all.
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Itâs about abortion. Period.
Completely understand WAAF. However things come down to binary choices. If your candidate loses the primary you still must vote in November no matter how unenthused and cynical you feel. Not voting or voting third party makes things worse. Maybe the marginal gain is much smaller than we would like, but itâs not 0. Things getting even worse so people wake up is already happening without any help from us. (The getting worse part)
My inspiration
https://twitter.com/georgetakei/status/1521543727591968768?s=21&t=KzS9PQAWCEVwYYTUx-FGYQ
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Itâs insane to me that there have been no simple bills (to my knowledge) advanced in Congress that just say âno your stupid hillbilly state canât ban abortionâ and make the ghouls vote no.
Instead Iâm sure Chuck and Nancy will come up with some 4000 page trashbag bill with some dipshit 20 word name that spells out something cute and somehow includes money for trains and bans hamburgers and requires all bathrooms to be pedo-accessible with clear plexiglass dividers.
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Dems want all this.
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Clyburn is a fucking asshole.
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It will forever be amazing to me that most of the world lives their lives based on works of fiction written to exert control over people of the ancient world. Itâs like if you told me that in 2000 years people would be worshipping Harry Potter and trying to learn how to live from those infallible ancient texts.
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Wow. Trans people would be just as screwed.
Whats the difference between a cult and a religion?
2,000 years
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