Once Republicans were able to sneak an incompetent like Clarence Thomas onto the Court, they realized it was open season on the rule of law. Thanks, Joe Biden!
There isnât a single poster on this forum who thinks this. The reason they care is because it helps them advance their goals not out of some kind of ethics or morality.
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No idea what this is.
Im still holding out for a Westexit
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Ah memories
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FYP.
This may be true, but Iâm sure there are under 30s on the right, who wouldnât really care if it happened. Definitely not enough to vote blue.
I agree with this. But I think they also show restraint, or occasionally jump to the other side, out of an urge to be respected by dems and embraced by history. It isnât all cynical calculation; itâs also narcissism and their own personal need to perceive themselves as fair and honorable justicesâas The Good Guys.
How much this matters is a separate question. How differently would the Supremes behave if they went full-blown-nihilist and aimed for something approaching the handmaids tale? It would probably be a strategic dance not unlike what we see now, and it might well include cases like Bostock and Obergefell in order to lend the Court legitimacy.
As far as I can tell, the accelerator is pressed to the floor right now, whatever the motivation and whatever the destination. How to throw a wrench into the gears is the only question for us.
The answer is to degrade the institution as aggressively as possible. Expose their decisions as political and contradictory, and refuse to celebrate even âgoodâ decisions. Undermine the narrative each justice maintains about themselves that they are one of the Good Guys. Make it clear we consider them illegitimate political actors, nothing more.
Republicans are the ones who rotted the institution; now we need to stop lending it legitimacy. This is more or less how Republican politicians took control of the Court in the first place; they stopped considering the Court legitimate during the Civil Rights era and began to treat it with complete cynicism. It has taken a couple generations, but theyâve almost totally reshaped the Court in that image.
Iâm sure everyone here can agree that the GOP establishment is 100% cynical about the Court, even if we canât agree that the justices they select are 100% in lockstep.
Now the left has to follow suit. Thereâs simply no other choice.
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Yeah, the sneakiness of the Texas law really works both ways. Even if all challenges to it hold up and every red state does a carbon copy of it to make abortions de facto illegal, there are still a zillion low-info voters on the left that wonât pay much attention because RvW hasnât been technically overturned, yeah theyâve heard something about some lawsuit thing but they donât really understand how it works, etc.
And then on the other side, since RvW is still technically the law of the land, the GOP can run on whatever âzomg forty trillion innocent babies get slaughtered every yearâ nonsense they want and itâll still get the rubes frothed up and lining up at the polls. It totally gets rid of the dog-catching-the-car dilemma that people thought Republicans would be in if they really overturned it.
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Anti-abortion leaders in Texas said they never expected many people to actually file lawsuits, thinking the process would be too costly and onerous.
âThese out-of-state suits are not what the bill is intended for,â said Chelsey Youman, the Texas state director and national legislative adviser for Human Coalition, an anti-abortion group that said it had no plans to file a lawsuit against the physician, Dr. Alan Braid, or to encourage others to do so.
âThe goal is to save as many lives as possible, and the law is working,â Ms. Youman said, adding that the notion behind the law was that the mere threat of liability would be so intimidating that providers would simply comply.
âLook, the whole goal was bad faith, we didnât think people would actually follow through.â
Supreme Court in not striking down the law: âWho could have known this was in bad faith?â
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The legal term is âchilling effectâ.
âWe just wanted to scare people into not getting healthcare. We arent monsters. Whats the big deal?â
We need the suit to proceed to get the issue of whether the statute is constitutional decided.
Even if itâs unenforceable, the existence of the law is going to make it harder for people to get healthcare.
This is no joke a good idea. Just swamp the courts with these suits. Drag them out until the last minute and then dismiss.
The fatal flaw in this plan is that the law has baked into it that there can be only one successful suit per abortion. If you flood the system with 50k suits for one abortion, the whole queue clears after the first finding.
For each abortion, everybody involved should be sued by an ally at the exact moment of the procedure. The suits are lost, and the 10k each is paid by a defense fund. The ally then donates the winnings to the defense fund.
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