The Raid (on Rebekah Jones's home)

Danspartan · December 8, 2020, 5:48pm

Cite on covid related stuff please. And DeSantis doesn’t count.

anon10396289 · December 8, 2020, 5:52pm

OK? I just don’t think the cops treated her any worse than they would have treated anyone else.

anon10396289 · December 8, 2020, 5:56pm

I mean I could re-link to ChrisV’s old posts on how she was fired for cause and never showed any proof of her allegations but you have him on ignore because of those posts, so what’s the point.

Churchill · December 8, 2020, 5:56pm

here ya go, already on it

COVID-19: Chapter 6 - ThanksGRAVING

I just looked into Rebekah Jones some more. Despite her regular rants about “economists”, she herself is not a data scientist, an epidemiologist or a health professional of any kind. Her degree is in geography and at university she did research relating to tropical storms.

State records show that she was reprimanded several times for violating Health Department policy on public statements, including releasing information she was not authorised to release, before finally being fired.

miami.cbslocal.com – 24 May 20

State Records Show Rebekah Jones Fired For Violating Health Department Policy…

State records show that Rebekah Jones, the woman who helped curate Florida’s COVID-19 dashboard, had been reprimanded several times and ultimately fired for violating Health Department policy by making public remarks about the information.

She accused the Health Department of directing her to alter case numbers before putting them up on the website, but when she finally gave details it was shit like this:

She has, however, suggested Health Department managers wanted her to manipulate information to paint a rosier picture and that she pushed back. In an interview late Friday on CNN she finally cited some detail, after several days of vague statements.

She said the state made changes in April to support its initial reopening May 4, for example by altering the way it reports the positivity rate of testing in a way she disagreed with. Instead of showing the rate of all positive tests, it began showing the rate of new positive tests — filtering out people who previously tested positive.

This was not a behind-the-scenes change. DeSantis announced it at an April 24 news conference, arguing it was the better figure for assessing trends in testing and control of the outbreak.

This is not the first time Rebekah has encountered workplace discipline, she was fired from Florida State from her teaching gig while doing her Ph. D. for having an affair with an undergraduate student.

news.wjct.org

Criminal Stalking Case Against Fired Fla. Health Data Scientist To Drag Into…

A misdemeanor criminal stalking case against the self-described whistleblower at the center of a politically charged dispute over Florida’s COVID-19

Jones was later charged with misdemeanour stalking for, among other things, posting a revenge porn document online:

Rebekah Jones, 30, was charged in July 2019 with stalking a former boyfriend – long before the pandemic that catapulted her into headlines and television interviews. Police said she published a 68-page document online discussing private details of her relationship with her former boyfriend, including explicit texts and nude photographs , and shared the link with him.

The two had sex in a classroom in 2017 when Jones was his married professor at Florida State University, the man told police. She was fired from the university after threatening to give a failing grade to his roommate as revenge, he said. Jones said the two had a six-month affair until October 2017, and the man is the father of her daughter born in July 2018.

According to police, Jones wrote in emails to the man, “You’re going to be famous. We’re going to destroy each other. This is never going to end.”

This young man took out a restraining order against her and she was charged with felony robbery, trespass and contempt of court for violating that restraining order by coming back on campus, but those charges were dropped, I don’t know why. She did file a complaint of her own though:

In addition to the criminal charges, Jones sued her ex-boyfriend in June 2019 in civil court, accusing him of intentionally inflicting emotional distress, sexual battery, domestic violence, emotional abuse and defamation. She abandoned the lawsuit weeks later.

Jones said the 68 pages she was accused of publishing online were excerpts from a longer, 342-page collection of essays she wrote about her relationship with her ex-boyfriend. Those documents were filed in circuit court as part of her civil lawsuit.

You’re reading that correctly, she wrote a 342-page manifesto about this relationship (complete with explicit details about their sex life, apparently this dude had a big dick and it hurt the first time) and submitted it in a lawsuit. By the way, she was married to someone else while all this was going on.

This is an unstable fabulist who was fired legitimately for insubordination.

Dan’s tweet above alleges that the rate of COVID in high schools in Florida in the last two weeks is roughly three times the statewide case rate. This is an extraordinary claim. I challenge anyone to visit Jones’s data site and explain to me how this number is arrived at. The site is a mess. It relies partly on “public reports” which it is claimed are “verified”, but there are far too many reports for one person to verify, and it’s not explained how the site prevents duplication of reports, either multiple public reports of the same incident or duplication of official figures with public reports. In a word, the site is totally incomprehensible and any figures which Jones reports should be regarded as fabricated.

This garbage doesn’t belong ITT, Jones should be a proscribed source. I’d tempban @DanSpartan while I was at it because he knew full well that the data was not reliable.

outdrawed · December 8, 2020, 5:58pm

I thought it was a pretty obvious bit of sarcasm but I probably would have missed it too if my only purpose here was picking fights with literally everyone

Churchill · December 8, 2020, 5:59pm

Dan…

COVID-19: Chapter 6 - ThanksGRAVING

I have no idea if you’re going to read this or not, but if you didn’t ignore me you’d have read it a week ago. From the CDC explanation of the indicators , bolding in original:

If, after applying the core indicators described in the table below, a school is at “medium,” “higher,” or “highest” risk of transmission, it does not mean that the school cannot re-open for in-person learning

The indicators are a guide to how vigilant the school needs to be, not a method for determining whether they should close or not.

I definitely don’t think “kids don’t spread COVID” but it’s definitely possible and perhaps likely that young kids spread it significantly less. Whether you close schools or not depends on your strategy. Basically my opinion is that if you’re going to accept some level of spread then primary schools are the absolute first place you accept it in, after truly essential services like supermarkets and healthcare. One of the big problems with “the case numbers are very high, quick close schools” is that high case numbers is in itself an indicator of insufficient action elsewhere. My answer to “omg high case numbers, should schools close?” is just “wrong question”.

In Australia, in Victoria schools were closed as part of a hard lockdown and they went for elimination of the virus and got it. In NSW they went more for test-and-trace and didn’t close schools. If you’re just going to allow virtually uncontrolled spread, then modelling from Imperial College, published in BMJ demonstrated that closing schools INCREASED overall mortality, because leaving them open allowed some spread within a non-vulnerable population, creating a mini herd immunity effect which mitigated second and third waves. I don’t think there’s anything like a linear relationship between case numbers and urgency of closing schools, it’s more complicated than that.

Lawnmower_Man · December 8, 2020, 6:00pm

Lol hacking. What hardware did they take?

eyebooger · December 8, 2020, 6:12pm

No comment on whether this is true, but even if it is, that’s a major problem.

smrk4 · December 8, 2020, 7:52pm

You had me at [redacted]. Something about [redacted] stooping to folly with twitter opinions I don’t like flips my wig too.

Danspartan · December 8, 2020, 8:09pm

I’m reading everyone in this thread. Chris is not on ignore.

And I want cites in why the school tracking data is invalid by someone that doesn’t have a clear axe to grind. Like not the gov of Florida and not her weird affair.

Listen I’m not saying who is right and who is wrong but the gospel accepted that she is nutters about everything is slim.

I obviously wouldn’t have asked for cites if I wanted a retread of before.

anon10396289 · December 8, 2020, 8:12pm

I mean did you read Chris’ posts about that in the covid thread a couple of weeks ago?

anon24898493 · December 8, 2020, 8:15pm

wHy DiDn’T sHe JuSt CoMpLy?

Churchill · December 8, 2020, 8:23pm

Rebekah claimed 3x the FL state case +rate was being measured in FL schools (first lol is that Florida / FL schools have the first clue as to how to track and trace)

There are many countries also experiencing Covid, who have had OFS for MONTHS longer than the US (some never closed) with actual track and trace - whom have never experienced such a thing - some (most) would say the exact opposite has been experienced.

I have a 10yr old nephew in WA who’s been out of school for 11 months now - not sure why

Rebekah’s BS ain’t helping.

How old was the young man she was riding? If under 21yrs, that’s a kid by US standards (see Epstein thread) - sounds a bit rapey IMO so not sure I find this lady reporting outlandish stats, not identified anywhere else on the planet as being a trustworthy cite of yours.

anon10396289 · December 8, 2020, 8:26pm

jesus christ

Danspartan · December 8, 2020, 8:29pm

"## About the data

Our reporting focused on district-level and statewide coronavirus case totals for public schools in the United States. The numbers presented here are necessarily minimums because of differences in reporting.

Except where noted, case counts encompass Regular School Districts as identified by the Education Department and exclude special education schools, supervisory unions, component districts, regional education service agencies, state or federally operated agencies and charter agencies.

Statewide and district case totals were reported by state and local health and education agencies or were identified by The Covid Monitor or the National Education Association and independently confirmed by The Times.

The Times directly surveyed every school district in eight states: Colorado, Florida, Georgia, Illinois, Indiana, North Carolina, Texas and Utah. The response rate was 26 percent. Where possible, The Times sought to identify case totals since July 1.

Case counts represent the latest available data for each district or state, covering a period from Aug. 21 to Sept. 17.

Reporting periods and methods vary by district and state, so exercise caution when comparing areas. Several states do not identify school outbreaks of fewer than two or five cases, though they may include all cases in statewide totals. Some states report cases in educational settings but do not break out K-12 schools. Not all districts reporting cases have opened for in-person instruction."

Please cite non-anecdotal information as to what is wrong with the data. Be very specific. Thank you.

Danspartan · December 8, 2020, 8:30pm

I did mention a Venn Diagram earlier. Seems like its holding.

Churchill · December 8, 2020, 8:32pm

It’s US data

Danspartan · December 8, 2020, 8:35pm

well thats helpful how?

anon10396289 · December 8, 2020, 8:35pm

Danspartan · December 8, 2020, 8:37pm

Have at it all. Here is the publication, not peer reviewed. I’d love to see a real refutation of the data is in it, and why the interpretation is wrong. Feel free to cite other experts.

And details. Thanks.

Thanks