While this is true, it is pretty damn infuriating to see democrats ship tens of billions of dollars to health insurance companies.
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More payments to the middleman that keeps the uniquely terrible and inhumane American healthcare system in place shouldnât be some sort of brag
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Literally using the propaganda word that keeps poor people sick and sick people bankrupt
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Oh give me a fucking break. People need help now. They donât got time for a reformation of the entire health care system, and more importantly, you donât have the votes for such a plan anyways
@Riverman I get it, but you donât have much of a choice if you want to keep access to care in the face of employment turmoil. At least if you want one that has a chance in hell of passing.
How the fuck would that amendment survive a parliamentarian ruling on âeffects the budget?â
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Yeah this is a huge issue. All the last minute negotiations in senate were D on D crime.
God, what are you commie pussies crying about? The average âMerican is about to get enough money to cover at least 2 months of terrible ACA premiums for the Greatest Healthcare in the World*! The unemployed are going to get the equivalent of $7.50 an hour (THATS MORE THAN MINIMUM WAGE YOU FUCKING BABIES) to sit on their ass while the economy is broken due to a pandemic the country never took seriously. What a bunch of ungrateful extremists. If you donât like it, you can move to a country that pays the unemployed 100% of their wage and has free healthcare. But thatâs socialism.
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People voted for Biden because they thought he was the safest bet to beat Trump. People were right.
Oh for sure man, the election was a total blowout, definitely appropriate to take a victory lap and jerk yourself off about being ârightâ In that spot. âPeople were rightâ lolol
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One thing that seems odd to me about some of the MOST PROGRESSIVE BILL IN THE HISTORY OF MAN takes is that this bill isnât a permanent solution to any of a large number of pressing systemic issues. Throw some money at it and hope people ignore that they didnât fix literally anything is so quintessentially Dem though.
Have those of you cheering this realized this is likely all we are getting?
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Itâs not the most progressive bill in the history of man, itâs the most expensive bill in the service of a progressive cause in the history of man. Itâs still a good bill.
What permanent solutions does it offer? It gives people money in the short term that I agree is good. But how does it solve any of the problems the party ran on fixing?
I donât understand the refusal to admit anything is good. Itâs not some crime against the movement to say that the stimulus is a good thing even though it is lacking some important policy and there is a lot of work to do still.
Call me crazy, and a Biden apologist, but between the stimulus passing and the covid response the US, and world, is immeasurably better off today than 5 weeks ago.
I feel zero shame in thinking that and no less progressive because itâs simply fact.
I also recognize Biden and the Dems have coughed up the ball too many times already, failed miserably at their futile bipartisian outreach, broke several campaign promises, are catering to the centre more than the progressive wing and have not done near enough on things like the border.
No one is refusing to a admit anything is good.
This is a temporary bandaid on the real problems. And this is all we are getting. It can be simultaneously good short term and bad long term.
Itâs doesnât but it canât by definition. It was passed by reconciliation.
Itâs does move the Overton window though which will be permanent.
How is it bad long term?
The facism is still looming and it is hard to see how this bill will do anything to stop it. I donât know if I need to preface every post with âBiden is better than Trumpâ or what but I agree we are better off than if we had lost the election. By a wide margin.
Itâs bad long term because in 2 years when the money has long since dried up for voters all of the same systemic problems will still be there. How are the Dems going to credibly run on the same platform in 2022 when they didnât fix any of the issues when they had the chance? (This assumes this bill is as good as it gets which I think is correct but may not be)
There was a straight up or down vote on minimum wage and it was a lot more than Manchin and Sinema who voted no. That doesnât signal that good things are coming.
Youâre right that this is a bandaid, but this isnât all we are getting. We are getting a second bill this year through reconciliation on taxes and maybe infrastructure if that can clear reconciliation rules. And⌠thatâs it. WTF do you want, we have a 50-50 senate. It is what it is. We are light years better off then where we were if we didnât bink Georgia.
It wasnât a straight up or down vote on minimum wage, it was a straight up or down vote on essentially overruling the parliamentarian of the senate to put minimum wage into the reconciliation bill. I get that the messaging on that is horrible, but there is an important distinction.