He’s gonna win his home state of NY LDO.
HRC didn’t go into the election up 8+ (She was up 4 on election eve), she wasn’t up 10 in July, and the final national polls were only off by 2 points on average.
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Dems always find a way to lose easy elections. I’m excited to see how they fuck up 2020.
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Also, and this bears repeating, she never breached 50 percent and there were always a huge amount of undecideds. Biden is consistently above 50 percent and there are very few undecideds.
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it’s not really a surprise that some trump supporters tell you they are voting for hillary/biden.
i thought when we talk about rigging we meant voter suppression and other dirty tricks before the vote happens.
you guys are suggesting outright fraud/hacking? any evidence?
yea my bad as late as October she was only up +7.
And if f you don’t see how 2 points is massive, idk what to say.
Also not really interested in having a debate around this - but I do know what the polls said
Anti-vaxxer trumpkins (and there are a lot of them) heads are going to explode trying to decide whether to get the vaccine to help trump or not get the vaccine for reasons.
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There’s a reasonable argument that the pollsters were reasonably accurate in their data, but their models were bad at predicting the behavior of undecided voters. If they had been better at forecasting how undecideds would break, we would have had a better idea of Trump’s chances.
Some seem to be assuming that pollsters haven’t improved their methodology and models since 2016. They were caught unaware in the Michigan primary when Bernie won after trailing in the polls by 20+ polls. The Bernie bros were hoping for another Michigan miracle in 2020, but this time the polling held up.
He’s Florida Man now though.
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Two points is not massive, it’s a normal polling error. Yeah, obviously Trump can still win and make up this 10 point deficit. But it’s just not right to say the polls in 2016 were so wrong. Historically they were well within a normal margin of error. It’s why places like 538 only had HRC as like a 65-70 percent favorite to win on election eve.
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Did fine in 2018.
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Most of the 2016 polls were fine, it was the models that were shit.
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We should talk about Quentin Tarantino’s best movies and perhaps even rank them from best to worst who’s up for it?
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Not sure if joking. A lovely discussion already in media res
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that’s the joke dot that guy from simpson’s who sounds like ahhnold
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Oof, that’s gonna sting in the morning
No clue. But to update, I commented on the post with basically what I wrote here. He has since deleted the post. Maybe my saying “if this convinces one idiot to get complacent and not vote than I’m all for it” was a mistake?
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How many election security bills has the senate passed
Uh
0
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Marco Rubio stripped out a provision that passed the Senate Intelligence Committee 8-7 that would have required campaigns to report offers of foreign help in elections. They’re not even trying to hide it. They’re all in, as they should be. I fear Democrats are wholly unprepared for the moment. So easy to see the GOP declaring victory on election night, the media running with that narrative, and the facts meaning jack fucking shit after that.
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