You just plain couldn’t sign him.
So basically any team that is missing one of the next two year’s draft picks can’t make Lamar an offer until the draft, then the could offer their 2025 pick.
It would be nice if all the national pundits actually explained this stuff rather than just vague-whining about collusion.
They should give players with a franchise tag the option to sign a one-, two-, and maybe even three-year deal at the tendered amount. Team tags the player. Player gets to choose how long. Give them some additional security in case of injury.
All guaranteed I assume?
Probably. I’m open to modifications of the idea to make it work better.
I just assume yes because aren’t tags guaranteed as part of the trade off for potentially less money. So I would think you would have to do so.
Or you could have a yearly increase and it guarantees at start of second year for year two. OR I guess they could just make them like regular contracts where you have a signing bonus and then the rest paid out over how many years the players agreed to take. But the signing bonus might need to equal the number of years x tag price (plus any built in increases).
This is a silly example, of course, but it’s an important stipulation. When Seahawks guard Steve Hutchinson was signed to the transition tag instead of the franchise tag in 2006, the Vikings offered him a contract that stipulated his entire deal would become guaranteed if there was another lineman on his team making more money than him. In Minnesota, there was no such lineman making more money than Hutchinson, but in Seattle, which had to match the offer sheet word for word, there was. The offer from Minnesota had a poison pill—a fundamental difference in Hutchinson’s contract if he was a Viking instead of a Seahawk—and no such foolishness can happen with sheets offered to Lamar.
LOL
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Yeah, this was some serious fucking bullshit.
Lol no. You could argue the tag itself is bullshit but is part of the rules of the CBA. At the time that was done it was also fine within the rules of the CBA
NFL just going with straight collusion against Lamar, classic
lamar needs to be on the phone with hurts and herbert and burrow and make sure they are taking note of what the owners are doing to him they will do to them.
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I’m not sure I see the collusion? Lamar has been inconsistent and I can see why there’s hesitancy to sign him to a market setting long term deal. He can negotiate with other teams but there’s some interesting prospects in this years draft. But he could still easily end up with another team shortly.
Burrow will get his deal when his time comes. He’s the type of talent you don’t question. Hurts will too if he keeps up his progress from last year. Herbert is another one who probably gets a long term max deal but might end up in a similar spot.
I’ll say it - I wouldn’t want to pay Lamar 40+m to have him QB my team. You need to configure a very specific offense around him, and if/when he gets injured, you’re sort of stuck. I have limited confidence in him as a passer, and it’s a slanger’s game imo.
i don’t want him on my team either, but that doesn’t mean he isn’t worth the money… 40 is a hilariously low bar though in the current market. i’m assuming that was a miss type… daniel jones contract breaks down to something like 3yr 112.5(37.5 mill per year) with 94 guaranteed in march of 24… and the full 112.5 gtd for injury… and you dont think lamar is worth even 2.5 million more per year than daniel jones?
i know lamar wants like 5/250… but 5 225/230 seems easily inline with his value.
I’d rather have Danny Dimes or Derek Carr. I’m not saying that those guys necessarily give you the absolute better chance to win, but they allow you to build a normal NFL offense that imo is more durable, and from a business standpoint allows you to put a more entertaining product on the field.
But, not every team has even a Jones or a Carr, and if I’m a fully QB-less team that isn’t in position to reasonably secure a top-level prospect in the draft, it’s probably worth a swing. Those teams are likely to be quite bad though, and bad teams giving up multiple first round picks isn’t the typical way to get un-bad, so even that gives me some pause.
I’m definitely not an NFL GM though, believe it or not.
On some random betting site the lions are the odds on favorite to be Lamar’s next team
No thanks
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is a 7-10/8-9 entertaining product worth more to a franchise than a perennial division winner/playoff team? idk the answer to that question.
lamar is 45-16 as a starting qb.
eta- im a steelers homer… i hate lamar. but the lack of interest is crazy imo outside of a very controlled/contrived effort by the owners to not settle for guaranteed QB contracts becoming the norm.
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Gotta wonder if the NFLPA is gonna file a grievance…oh wait
i would guess that most people that think lamar is not worth 40/y would also say that danny dimes is not worth 37.5/y