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This would seem to say you have reason to be worried

Since 1993, only seven NFL games have closed with a point spread of 20 points or higher and those teams are 7-0 straight up, but just 1-6 against the spread.

so you have Tampa as significantly less of a favorite than the odds-makers?

Yeah, according to my spreadsheet, there isnā€™t much of a difference in value between Manning (in present form) and Jones. Furthermore, my algorithm said the line should be almost +4, but then I made an adjustment for the fact that the Giants are 0-2 and might try extra hard not to let their season slip away by falling to 0-3. How big to make such adjustments is the hard part and Iā€™m sure by next year my method will have changed a lot. But now that the market line is +6.5 itā€™s a bet even without said adjustment.

In some of my Week 4 lines I factored in the possibility of a team being 0-3. But come Week 5 Iā€™ll no longer consider ā€œowenā€ a factor.

In general, finding disagreements with the oddsmakers is what itā€™s all about. Those are the games I consider betting if the disagreement is bigger than the vig. Ofc thereā€™s always a strong possibility that they know something I donā€™t, and as the season goes on that will become an even likelier explanation (though I expect there to be fewer/smaller disagreements too). The smart money is what will let me know which one of us was wrong. Generally if the late pre-game line movement is toward my line, thatā€™s a good sign, otherwise chances are my line is the one thatā€™s off. Iā€™ll be evaluating my modelā€™s performance based on Bookmakerā€™s closing lines (which I hear is sharper than Pinnacle these days) more-so than on my actual ATS results.

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Fitztragic benched for Rosen in Miami, Iā€™m sure that will matter A lot

Also claimed Taco Charlton off waivers from the Cowboys so we have a reason to watch now! Taco sacks Dak 5 times in revenge matchup!

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I assume you meant Car +2.5?

Also, unless Iā€™m blind I think you missed LAR @ CLE

Thanks for this tho, looks pretty accurate besides CAR and the skins game (currently +4)

Also I would be all over skins +4 if it wasnā€™t MNF. The skins are unbelievably bad on MNF, pretty sure they have been cursed since Snyder bought them. Gruden has been particularly awful.

Edit: was curious so ran some queries on PFR; not sure if their spread data is 100% accurate, but none of these games are really close enough to matter:

MNF under Gruden:

Now granted they were only a favorite in 2 of these games but they are 1-8 ATS.

Tacoā€™s journey has been good fodder around here. He was untradable And a huge stain on the front office as being a huge miss on a first round pick. Plus he has been pretty petulant lately. Kind of funny he ends up on Miami.

Wonder if the dolphins will use their winless record to claim every waiver player lol.

u guys ready for some thursday night action??!!

Buck on the call!

yes. not a bad start.

I bet that the game would have 0 or 1 turnovers, tho

at like +480ish.

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lol so Ive got that going for me

the jackass return guy let that ball bounce several times before trying to handle it

Saving their season tonight. Ramsey should stay put

I canā€˜t tell if that is Minshew or Mac from Always Sunny in Philadelphia.

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No I meant minus, which was actually the marketā€™s exact line until today. I donā€™t really know what changed in the marketā€™s eyes. Maybe yesterday they only made a half-adjustment until it became more certain that Cam would be out.

Whoops yes. I have it Rams -2.5(-108). I think there is some value in taking Cle+3(100) or equivalently, +3.5(-120).

Regarding Wash, I think the truth is probably somewhere in the middle. I do think Was+4 (or Was+5 if placed a week ago) is a great bet and I expect the sharp lines to drop to +3 or less by Mondayā€™s kickoff. It has already moved to 3.5.

I donā€™t take stats like that very seriously. Some sportsbooks send you free magazines packed with multiple angles like that for each team. There are problems with such angles: lack of a cause-effect explanation, small sample size and/or drawing conclusions about todayā€™s team from ancient games. For instance the 2014 Redskins probably had a much different roster than the 2019 Redskins, so what possible relevance could games from 2014 have? The teams have little in common besides sharing the same name and both sucking. (Without checking the archive I can safely guess that the [insert year] Redskins sucked lol.) In short, maybe thereā€™s a good reason for the line being +3.5, but I doubt itā€™s that the Skins MNF angle was part of the sharpsā€™ / oddsmakersā€™ calculation.

Ofc after this post the skins will lose 27-10 but so be it lol.

Yeah, a lot of angles seem like random coincidence. The Skins sucking for the last 10 years is a better explanation.

2014 redskins have the same coach :slight_smile:

my zero or 1 turnover bet is still live!

Nh

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amazing lol considering that 1 turnover so early. I didnā€™t even know they had that type prop till I perused pregame

zero or 1 was +480

2 or 3 was +115