There is a lot of distance between “total lockdown” and “go back to our lives”. If people can’t wrap their thick skulls around the idea that we’re going to need to significantly change our normal routines, then the only options are total lockdown or mass deaths until there is a vaccine.
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See this is the mistake you and conservatives keep making. The virus doesn’t care. Until there is a vaccine, we have to play by the virus’s rules.
Capitalism does not work during a pandemic. Turns out it’s a glaring weakness. Just freeze banks, mortgages, rent, etc and give the people enough money to buy food. And don’t tell me we can’t afford it. Wall Street got $1.5 Trillion for having a bad week after an 11 year bull market.
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Yup. It’s not even worth responding to at this point. If you are crying about children while voting for and supporting the King of Caging Kids you suck and/or are just a troll
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Rogan rant still applies.
If that doesn’t freak you the fuck out, you’re not a part of the team.
Inso is dumb, (we’re not downplaying anything, we’re trying to prevent people from dying you dense motherfucker), but do you honestly believe a Hillary presidency handles this as well as SK or NZ? Don’t get me wrong, I proudly voted for her and would pull the lever again in a heartbeat. I also think she handles this like a gajillion times better than Trump. But I think it’s dangerous to pretend that a random D president crushes this.
It would be pretty hard to handle it any worse?
Obviously. I could do a better job and I’m a college dropout who works at a grocery store.
I’m just saying I don’t think we should pretend that we handle it like the countries who have actually prevented catastrophe
Hillary does better:
- Not gutting a lot of CDC infrastructure / better relationship w/ China = we get a better feel for the problem sooner, have a chance to start building up ppe supplies, contingency plans etc.
- Better coordination with state and local officials = decreased bidding wars over supplies, better guidance for local health officials who really aren’t staffed and trained for these types of things.
- More consistent messaging probably leads to better outcomes
Possibly worse under Hillary:
- Waaaaay more opposition from Rs on spending federal resources. Those 1200 checks probably don’t happen or they demand some wild concessions. In fact, they might just leave town and refuse to pass any legislation at all while also demonizing any executive actions as overreach.
- The liberate protests are even crazier.
So, yeah, there’s no world in which we are SK or NZ, but I think an earlier and more coherent response probably helps a lot.
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Incorrect. The reason we did all of this was to flatten the curve because some quack said that 2.2 million Americans would die. The curve was flattened and 2.2 million was never a realistic number to begin with. A hospital ship was sent to NYC to deal with a hospital bed shortage that lasted for a whole day and a half, and everywhere else in the country the hospitals sat and now sit empty because reasons.
The goalposts have been moving consistently, and will continue to do so for again, reasons.
All of those forum posts were moved again because you guys require an echo chamber. It’s why you were kicked out of 2p2, and why this place can’t take off.
I wish you all the best. I’ll be back again on November 4th to catch up on all the hot takes.
We are still well on pace for hundreds of thousands of deaths in USA #1 you mouthbreathing piece of shit.
Inso, you misunderstood. I wasn’t attempting to engage with you.
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What do you think of these guys, ins0? Bunch of americans exercising their gun rights, IMO.
Regardless of all the other things I disagree with inso about, I’m afraid he’s right that the impact of lost schooling on kids is going to be felt for a long time, and it’s probably one of the most significant long term impacts of covid.
I’m not sure that means we should do anything differently in particular, but it definitely sucks.
(Edit: woops, didn’t mean to reply to a specific post. Sorry)
If it makes you feel better it will only impact kids outside the US, as education in the US has negligible benefits
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He’s definitely right about that, and I addressed it:
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LMFAO, we were kicked out because Mason wanted an echo chamber.
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Yeah exactly. The thing is the rest of us are concerned with shortfalls in education and attempts to mitigate poverty ALL THE TIME. We try to get these things done through government action. Now we have a like once in a century pandemic and all of a sudden Inso0 and right wingers are basically concern trolling about these issues with the singular solution of “people need to get back to work and expose themselves to the virus so we can get back to normal.” Maybe just funding education and having stronger communal healthcare was the solution from the start? Makes you think (well not you but some of us).
I was out of the loop, so I read the Glamour piece.
Months of Twitter hate over someone rightfully pointing out a laughably PC replacement for the word “women” in an opinion piece.
How much mental effort does it require to be perpetually triggered over such incredibly minor stuff like this?
Does anyone have personal experience with this? The whole transgender thing fascinates me from a logical standpoint. Where does the line between “gender norms are evil” and “I’m the wrong gender” begin to blur? Or are those two completely different takes and they can’t coexist in the same person? What is it, specifically, about one’s existence that creates the need to superficially change the name of something so fundamental as your gender? How is it better than just declaring yourself as gay?
My youngest daughter is 14 and her best friend decided this year that she is no longer a she, and switched to the male version of her name. She used to be the stereotypical preteen girl with the crazy dyed hair and too many ear piercings and Hot Topic clothes, but he now looks like he’s fresh off the cover of a Boys Life magazine whenever I see him. Every time he comes over I want to ask how this came to be, but regardless of what you people think, I do have some self awareness and am not trying to pry into the personal life of this teenager and risk creating even more anxiety on top of whatever already exists. My daughter says nobody at school really cares and it just is what it is. That’s either a win for the LGBTQ2ANP#A club, or they’re just desensitized to all of the craziness in modern culture and non-normal is the new normal.
Call people whatever they want to be called, but don’t crucify others for making an initial assumption based on outward appearances, and please for the love of all that is holy, stop feeding your small children chemicals which might cause irreversible damage to their natural biology. Nobody cares if little Timmy plays with dolls instead of trucks. Let him go through puberty.
Go away.
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Yes. My personal experience is that people like Rowling do real harm by using their platforms to spread transphobia. Its not that complicated.
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