The Great Resignation: Remote workplaces and the future of work

Is this what you guys are seeing or no?

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I’m not sure what this guy knows or who he even is but he has a long thread here on work from home that I found interesting

https://twitter.com/chris_herd/status/1433028766129917955?s=21

THAT’S SOCIALISM!

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https://twitter.com/chris_herd/status/1433028790276481025

This is the most true. I’ve had every office and WFH situation there is before covid. If you only work Fridays at home, then Friday just becomes a day off, and I have a feeling productivity goes down because everyone is just working 4 days/week (not that I don’t fully support a 4-day work week). Once you’re working from home full time, it comes down to what you accomplish.

My biggest concern about wfh is that you don’t bond with your coworkers the same way. When the shit hits the fan, and you don’t have that instinctive human connection, things can get really ugly.

Think about the difference in email voice vs. phone voice vs. in person voice. If you know and get along with the person in real life, your emails will always stay around in-person voice. If you don’t, they’ll be at email voice, and you’ll be more likely to hear their emails as hostile. Especially if some team members do have the human connection and you don’t. You will always be the odd one out in that spot.

I think it’s possible that right now everything looks rosier than it is, because most teams were working together fairly recently, which totally works. In my experience once you make the human connection, then you can work 100% remotely and it’s fine.

However if basically every company is doing the same thing, then no one really has an advantage and people will probably just adjust. I like the idea of bonding trips combined with remote work. Those companies might get an edge. Of course the anti-social curmudgeons will hate the bonding trips. But that’s fine they just won’t work for those companies.

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A lot of this stuff rings true but in the real world this:

is not happening. Every large employer has a team to tell them that its illegal to hire people from anywhere in the world without a lot of legal and procedural infrastructure. If you have a job opening in the US and want to fill it with some dude living in Manila or Mumbai, but you have no company registration in the Philippines or India (respectively) you can’t just ship the guy a lap top and write paychecks from ABC Corp in the US to Remote Worker guy in a foreign country. You need a whole process that probably involves a local foreign subsidiary and complex tax and labor rules, its a nightmare and not at all obvious that it’s a practical option. Since everyone started asking about this stuff during the pandemic, at my company we actually have LESS flexibility about where we work than we used to. When only a couple of people wanted to be technically offside of tax/labor laws they just looked the other way. When leaders wanted it to be part of the business plan, everything got tightened up.

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My current team has a permanent zoom meeting going on that anyone can join. We listen to music and do our normal office banter while we swarm and tech issues that come in. People come and go as needed to attend other zoom meetings or make outbound calls. I am switching teams next month to different software, within the same division. I am scared the other team won’t have the same bonding b/c they don’t run a zoom room like this. However, I used to work in the office with most of this team about a decade ago so I do have some existing bond. I like the current zoom room so much so that I am thinking of starting one up after I transition in. My job stretches across both products so I will be bouncing around in the old zoom anyways quite a bit IMO.

Yeah I would like that. I loved working in an open office where I could interact with my coworkers all day. Some developers like caves. I’m the opposite.

Us biologists were very social and always in each other cubes.

Over in the process modeling engineers cube land, the eight other engineers could all be blown away one at a time by a bazooka and the 9th wouldn’t even look up.

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Rather than hiring the best person in a 30-mile radius of the office, they can hire the best person in the world for every role

This is just such bollox. Most jobs require competent people. That’s all. The amount of money and time required to get the best for each role and your output would increase about zero.

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When they say best they generally mean cheapest competent enough person.

https://twitter.com/moreperfectus/status/1507417295739629571?s=21

Party is over. Back to work.

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Always good to just outright admit you are wage slavers

You say wage slavers, I say shareholder value creator. Gimme all the dividends nom nom nom.

Wayne will be sacrificed shortly I’m sure. Maybe he can wait tables at Chili’s.

To argue with the narcissist, or not to argue?

I applied, through Indeed, for a Controller position last week. On 3/24, I received the following e-mail:

Hey Melfi,

Hope your day is going well! I noticed you were working on your application for Construction Accountant at Herp Derp Capital Group, LLC. Are you still interested in the role?

Complete your application here: https://wizehire.com/apply/

Let me know if you run into any issues.

Melissa

I clicked the link, and it took me to one of those “personality assessments,” NOT an actual application. I have a huge problem with these assessments. They tend to eliminate people based solely on their responses, while completely ignoring everything else about the candidate. And I cannot prove it, but I’m pretty sure I’ve recently missed out on two jobs solely because of my responses on one of them. One I’m sure of, in fact. But anyway…

On 3/26, I received another e-mail from them:

Hey Melfi - just checking in. I know life gets busy and you may not have had time to finish your application to Construction Accountant at Herp Derp Capital Group, LLC.

Is there anything I can help you with? Just let me know.

Here’s a link to the assessment, just in case you need a reminder:
https://wizehire.com/apply/

Melissa
Hiring Coach Lead at WizeHire

So this time, I sent a response: “I am not interested in working for any company that uses “personality assessments” as part of their hiring decisions. Please remove my name from consideration. Love, Melfi”

This morning, I received a THIRD e-mail, this time from the company president himself:

You were never considered and your response is why

Um, what? I was NEVER considered? Really? Then wtf are you spamming me with requests to complete your stupid assessment??

So what’s the play here? Let it go or respond and let him know how stupid he is?

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Ignoring the narcissist completely is always the right play, if possible. Here it appears possible.

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Consider it a bullet dodged.

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more seriously: either ignore it or a simple “LOL” will do unless you have way too much time on your hands

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Needs an “all county lineman” reference, otherwise solid :+1:

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There are three types of people who as you say, flash cheese: people who don’t know any better, people who are seeking to intimidate, and people like me who wish with every fiber of their being that someone would try and take it from them.