The Great Pronoun Debate

It’s kinda of a rough situation. Last thing you want is to be too accepting because you’ll end up like this

EDIT: In all seriousness, seeing people deal with this gives me a crazy amount of respect for good parents. It’s a hard af job to be one.

Yeah. Ive also heard some interesting stuff about peoples experience in a professional environment. I.e. suddebly discovering that people start/stop listening to them or start/stop interrupting them.

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/local/wp/2018/07/20/feature/crossing-the-divide-do-men-really-have-it-easier-these-transgender-guys-found-the-truth-was-more-complex/

This article is great, and has a more nuanced view than other stuff ive read. Def worth a read.

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Your kid sounds super cool :)

It’s awesome that you’re so supportive

I’ve totally noticed this like people talk over me now and don’t listen to my ideas or whatever things are totally different the way people see you and treat you.

Like oh my god it’s so weird to see how men treat me now it’s like a totally different world than the way they used to treat me so mean now they’re all flirty and nice it’s so weird like I’m still not used to it.

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The second you’re cool with whatever choice your kids make they’re going to come up with something you’ve never dreamed of. Fully accepting that I’m going to one day go to my grandson’s hologram throuple wedding on the moon.

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Look, I feel bad and apologize for being dismissive towards you, but I don’t feel bad nor do I think it warrants a more nuanced objection considering the author herself said that part was a stretch. That’s the only part I quoted to dismiss, the rest is great.

Can I just say I accept all pronouns?

You could. I suppose someone could interpret that as you being accepting of other people’s pronoun usage. That’s kind of the point as far as why men, for example, are encouraged to give their pronouns as he/him. It’s not to avoid confusion for that individual (at least not primarily). It’s a signal that you support the practice in general. When you do it, it makes it easier for those for whom it matters to do it.

If I saw that, I’d probably stop and think about what it meant for at least a second.

What I wrote was is more unambiguous, imo.

I don’t have a huge issue with this, it takes some gettting used to but it’s whatever. But i am tilted by the word they being used in singular form. We need a knew word for gender neutral singular pronoun because using a plural pronoun for a singular person is dumb

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It really isn’t. You’re just not used to it. English is full of all kinds of dumb shit you just don’t notice because it is familiar.

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yes but there is no reason to make a plural pronoun into a singular just to be gender neutral

I used to grade SATs for college board and when you used they as singlular you automatically couldnt get a perfect score on the essay. and this is only about 9 years ago

I am okay with gender neutral pronouns but we should make them, not just decide that plural pronouns should be used singularly

But there is a reason: the “mistake” you describe was repeated often enough that it became a natural part of speech. There is nothing natural about creating a new word. Hence, go with the flow, brother. Language evolves.

We should just ban pronouns.

You joke, but that is my approach most of the time. I typically use someone’s name if I don’t know them (!) well. That can also be awkward because as a dumb person some names are hard to pronounce, but :man_shrugging:

“Hey fuck face” is technically gender neutral.

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English has already made a plural pronoun into a singular, and it’s was done with little issue.

“You.” Or do you stick with the proper “thou” for singular?

Person 1: I saw my doctor about the rash.

Person 2: Oh, what did they say?

When my kid came out as trans I also expressed the “this is awkward grammatically” sentiment, and their response was “tough shit”.

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Prolly “they” (assuming it’s a non gendered pronoun)

Again “they”

This one is getting tricky. Could go either way.

I went to the store with them.

They went to the store with me.

Eta: metsnfins…well…new posters!

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This one is good!

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