The COVID Files: Deep dive on MDs, DOs, MCATs & possibly Accountants

Army hospitals because the army gets a bunch of med students who couldn’t get into real medical schools? (This is mostly in jest, but I wouldn’t be surprised if a B avg and average MCAT covers the bar for some of the DO schools.)

I bet a lot of the Army ones fall into my unclassified category (i.e. not affiliated with either an MD or DO school).

Med school is absolutely ludicrous to get into, MD or DO. It is, by far, the biggest filter. No way a 3.0 and average mcat gives you a decent chance of getting in without some special life modifiers built in.

IIRC army hospitals don’t really do med school, they do residencies for people who signed up for the army. You mostly go to school on army scholarship plus a nice stipend for med school. It’s not a bad deal and I thought about it.

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I was talking to an orthopedic surgeon a few days ago who said its basically impossible to grasp how hard it is to get into med school now. He has people working for him as scribes (literally follow the doc around writing their chart) for $12/hr with fantastic grades and decent MCAT scores, hoping to build a resume to apply again. He said foreign medical schools are a decent alternative option.

One thing I worry about with medicine moving forward is burnout. Almost every doctor says practicing isn’t fun. Electronic chart, insurance issues, financial pressure, etc.

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Ortho I know you’re wrong about. The rest… IDK, not familiar with it.

Y’all are making WAY too big of a deal about this DO stuff.

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I’m willing to accept that they are well trained and solid. Much of medicine is algorithm + specific variables for particular patients, but it’s useful to remember that medicine did fine as a profession for 2500 years before anyone actually knew what they doing.

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I have no idea what’s being talked about here, but I think the prescription is a new thread!

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Looked it up, the military medical school, unsurprisingly is hard to get into.

Military residencies are generally well respected and sought after as well.

Based on 3 min of googling.

This place’s average MCAT for admits is basically average.
Their average science GPA is for admits closer to a B+

https://www.lmunet.edu/debusk-college-of-osteopathic-medicine/do/admissions/the-application-process.php

Wouldn’t be too shocking if at least a few 3.0/average MCAT folks were enrolled there. But as you say there may have been other factors involved in their admission.

No it didn’t.

MD school? or DO?

Haha yeah, one of the most respected docs in a group practice my ex was part of went to med school somewhere in the West Indies because she couldn’t get into a school in the states. She’s awesome. With law it only really matters for your first job, or it did back then anyway.

Irieguy on 2p2 went the army route. Now he’s got a pretty successful ob/gyn practice.

Well, it wasn’t a large scale profession, but Hippocrates and Galen (600 years later) were influential for a reason.

Hot take: As schools get harder to get into there’s a point at which being more selective does more harm than good as far as having students who are good at the subject at hand.

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That‘s a scorching hot take. People died all the time because the treatment was worse than the disease.

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Those outliers are going to skew heavily towards schools in shitty states with big ‘in-state’ rules on who they accept. They don’t say their policy, but they focus on Appalachia in their statement. Wouldn’t be surprised if you basically have to live in that region to get accepted.

I meant “did fine” as in supply and demand, not efficacy.

Basically, medicine, like religion, had to exist (people get sick, people die), the stories justifying them came after.

Is there something in the “as a profession” clause?

Until penicillin last century many people spent their last decades in perpetual pain with tooth ache or infections. I’m sure simp is aware of this.

MD, uniformed services

y’all care about this waaaaay too much.

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