And here is the top of my google news feed
Ain’t gonna happen, America is worth fighting for
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Binging two days of this thread and reading all the Trump tweets always leads me to the conclusion we have already died and are on to some bizarro world afterlife.
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FAKE NEWS!!! Oh wait it’s Hunter Biden clickbait??? REAL NEWSZ REAL NEEWS PROOF OAN IS REAL!
Wait til you find out Newsmax is getting better ratings than Fox.
America is already done. Find a smaller geopolitical unit to fight for.
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They didn’t tweet their statement on their official accounts but you can at least count on Utah Republicans for a modicum of pushback on the insanity. Well, not their AG, but the other two.
My sister fukked me up good by mistake. I’m Irish American and my grandparents died when I was young but my sister knew them. If one of my four grandparents had been born in Ireland I would have dual citizenship and my sister insisted Granma Clayton had moved here from CountyKerry when she was two. When I asked my extremely liberal, Trump hating older brother if was considering the same he burst my bubble and told me my sister was very wrong.
I can afford to get out of here and keep the same lifestyle. I have no children or parents and plan on looking at Bermuda or the Bahamas. I think he or both s running a citizen ship drive where if u invest 250k in real estate, u are in.
It’s over when we say it’s over. It’s been far worse.
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I just can’t see NY or CA putting up with things getting out of control. The military in its current form is never going to back fascism. It’s hard for me to imagine a scenario where the tail wags the dog so badly that all good people start escaping like it was 1930s Germany.
That said, I’m still getting the fuck out. And I have the same concerns as JBro about my retirement accounts.
The only group of people who should seriously consider their future in the US are immigrants of varying statuses. For almost everybody else it’s going to be either: you’re too poor to leave so there goes that, or you’re rich enough to stay. Nobody is ever coming for upper middle class people, especially if you’re white, so chill a bit. Your sacrifice will merely be of self-esteem of living in a morally degrading state, but like, you’ll get over it.
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Everybody likes to imagine some sort of dramatic apocalypse. It’s just boring and sad to think that the collapse is already well underway and it’s just gonna be years and years of things slowly getting shittier.
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Plane tickets aren’t that expensive, the problem is being able to stay in said country.
Most of the time when shit really hits the fan and people figure out to leave it’s already too late.
Cox is the current Lt Gov and responsible for Utah elections, including the one Donald Trump just won. AG is an elected official here but still seems not great to piss off the Governor.
What about non-white people?
This is worth reading
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We have already hit shitier squared. I plan on doing some reading this winter. I wanna see how fast certain empires crashed and the suddenness of revolutions. I’m sure it won’t be on a sticky note or an email attachment when the avalanche begins.
Seems like it would be a lot easier for twitter to automatically label every Trump tweet as bullshit and then correct the occasional one that isn’t.
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For most of us, if we didn’t care a lot about the actions of our morally degrading state against underprivileged people, we wouldn’t be on this forum in the first place.
Plus just because I’m a white male of privilege doesn’t mean I don’t have poor friends/family, non-white friends/family, immigrant friends/family, etc.
So no, I won’t “get over it.”
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And then there are the polls showing that shocking numbers of rank-and-file Republicans are buying this big lie. A YouGov/ Economist poll found that 73 percent of Republicans had little or no confidence that the election was conducted fairly. A Morning Consult/ Politico survey found that 67 percent of Republicans said the election was probably or definitely not free and fair. And a Monmouth University poll found that 75 percent of Republicans were “not too confident” or “not at all confident” that the 2020 election was conducted fairly and accurately. Sixty-four Republican members of the Pennsylvania House of Representatives have signed a letter asking that members of Congress throw out Pennsylvania’s slate of electors.
We have now reached the stage where it isn’t just that Republicans fail to rebuke Trump. It isn’t just that Republicans are frightened into silence by fear of the base. We are now at the stage when a critical mass of the Republican party has adopted Trump’s disordered personality for its own. The Republican party is, in this iteration, a danger to American democracy. Our urgent task is, to borrow a phrase, to repeal and replace it.
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