The beer, wine, and spirits thread

Yuv isn’t wrong, but if you’re looking for something to seek out, anything from Russian River named ________tion is almost certainly great. Consecration, Supplication, and Defenestration were all wonderful. Difficult to find if you’re outside of Santa Rosa, though.

Where are you generally located (thinking state or region should be sufficient)? IME, the best sour beer producers have very local distribution and may be tough to provide blanket recommendations you can actually obtain.

Blocked.

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Is there such a thing as a double block?

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+1 to yuv recommendation to just try a lot. You might find some adjacent styles that you’re also interested in.

Here are some of my favorite breweries that specialized in sour beers from when I lived in FL and NC. My price point leans a little high and definitely more in the fruited/barrel aged sour rather than the gose area.

  • Wicked Weed - They have a ton of fruited sours, barrel aged sours, big flavor stouts, and all the normal styles. This was my all time favorite sour brewery at the time, but they sold out to ABINBEV a few years ago which has the side effect of improving their distribution. The quality is still very high and would recommend basically everything.

  • Creature Comforts - I remember them from their fruited Berliner Weisse and gose beers but they have branched out more into some sours.

  • Birds Fly South - Great wild and sour beer program with lots of fruited options.

  • New Belgium - Transatlantique and Oscar are some solid fruited sours with huge nationwide distro.

  • Lost Abbey - Skews high pricewise, but definitely some good fruited

  • Allagash - Coolship and Windfall are the beers I remember being good, but also tasty saisons

  • Upland - Higher quality fruited beers that always seemed available in my areas.

  • Jolly Pumpkin - They didn’t have many sours last I knew, but they did have a lot of complex saisons with fruit.

  • 3 Fonteinen - Belgian brewery that specializes in Lambic that seems fairly easy to get certain beers, like the Oude Kriek, though it definitely is pricey.

  • Lindeman’s - Another Belgian brewery with great distro in the US and lower price point. They have a very good entry level fruited lambics like kriek (cherry), frambois (raspberry), etc.

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i’m sure someone is outraged

Is kdawg or something like that still in here?

I would like some wine recommendations for around 100$ a bottle. I love Italian reds. Barolo and Brunello are my favorites. Also don’t mind a good champagne or a dry not very sweet white.

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https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/1480293570942693377

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What in the actual fuck.

lol. it’s non-alcoholic as well

It’s been a while since we’ve seen SvenO — their last post was 8 months ago.

Oh i wonder where he’s been

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That must have started at some pbr board meeting when some exec suggested hard seltzer and josh the ceo nephew was like “yo tom did you just say high seltzer” and tom was like “no i didn’t” and josh was all “yeah you said high seltzer” and everyone laughs.

And then after 3 weeks of everyone calling tom high seltzer guy he was like alright fuck it

Along the gimmicky-seltzer-like-product lines, we tried the Bud Light Hard Sodas over the weekend and they were surprisingly tasty. They gave surprisingly accurate soda flavor (lemon/lime, cherry, orange, and classic) and they managed to nail regular soda’s this-beverage-is-rotting-your-teeth mouthfeel.

Taste: 7/10
Drinkability of one: 10/10
Bingeability: -infinity due to teeth falling out of your mouth

Weird that this trend is now catching when like bacardi breezer were super popular 15 years ago. Did it not make it to the US?

IIRC there’s some sort of regulatory loophole that the seltzers exploited that made them cheaper (via tax avoidance, I think?) than previous hard-X beverages, which led to them catching on with young people, which led to the current explosion in related hard-X beverages.

We did, they released it again for a limited time 5 years back or so. It wasn’t bad I guess, finished the pack I bought.

Not sure what the problem is, I drank 10 and I feel great.

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Accumulating money for wine obviously.

$100 a bottle man? eth will bounce back, don’t embarrass yourself.