The 2020 Republican National Convention: There will be blood. And soil.

there’s no way he could naturalize these people if he was racist! suck it libs!

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Trump loves immigrants. Loves them. Especially the not white ones.

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https://twitter.com/tomaskenn/status/1298303255555067904?s=19

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One of my favorite genres of television is the police procedural and I know a lot about tons of them throughout TV history. You’re pretty off base with a lot of what you say here. There are certainly cop shows that do what you’re saying and there have also been cop shows that have done in the past what you’re saying. Those shows are a minority in the genre. I generally avoid that type of show like the plague (also pretty much never go near any CBS police procedural) because it’s almost always written by a right wing reactionary.

I don’t think I’d agree with your characterization of Stabler at all, though I ultimately quit SVU because every episode became victim blaming probably starting around 2013 or so. I wouldn’t touch 24 with a ten foot pole (knew it was pro-torture from right wing Hollywood even though I had done work for and liked their previous show to that). Probably the biggest single offender on TV right now of what you’re saying is Chicago PD. The show The Shield was another and I didn’t watch it because of it falling under this classification (I won’t rule out watching it, but won’t seek it out). Whether shows like this glorify police brutality and corruption or provide catharsis to its viewers, I don’t know, but it’s not something I’m interested in watching. Complex characters doing horrible things is pretty much never enough to get me to watch a show no matter how good it is if I don’t like the premise at least at a surface level.

I want to see characters who are conflicted crossing horrible lines, not ones who leap across it with glee and never have a regret unless caught. The police genre that was once extremely popular but was completely dead until very recently is the ‘Supercop’ genre such as what you describe. NBC tried to resurrect it with the terrible show Prime Suspect, but failed. It was resurrected by the great Amazon TV show, Bosch, from a book I thought would make a great TV show but would never be possible based on that genre being dead (I flagged it as a great TV property about 4 years before the show started). I was very happy to be proven wrong. Watching a show like that should give you a very different perspective about the police procedural/supercop genre.

I also disagree with your Herc and Carver characterization. They were bad guys who were way over the line and that never changed in the series (the guy who became the teacher was the one who evolved). You just ultimately ended up liking them despite them always being a-holes. Bosch is from several of the writers of The Wire to encourage you to watch it, since you liked that show.

If you want to continue any of this, I created a thread that this would better fit in despite being a derail in it.

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Where are the people from Norway?

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Someone needs to learn what never means

any other president would be reading this thing. but trump can’t lmao so some random dude is doing it while trump stands there doing and saying nothing

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The funny thing is, I can imagine a bunch of republicans tuned in totally reaching for the clicker right now

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His supporters must be so confused right now. I bet they assume It’s 5 white guys in black face.

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lol wtf was that shit

I pledge my fidelity to white blouse

is fox even showing this? They weren’t earlier. so r’s are watching tucker probably

so fuckin weird that he had a guy read for him

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Now trump calls them rapists

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What the fuck is happening to the left side of his head?

This truly is disturbing Dear Leader stuff using people as props.

No masks?

you are now, officially, unable to leave the country due to, the ching chong virus

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He roughed people up fairly often, it was just always okay to the viewer because we knew what scumbags they were and we knew what a good heart he had, troubled though he was. But then people think all cops that beat people are like Stabler, as opposed to just being racist violent assholes.

It’s not about how you and I interpret it in the context of a character drama, it’s about how most people interpret it.