So you’re saying everyone else got it wrong.
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Here’s the deal as I understand it. Each state has a law on the books that determines how it awards its slate of electors for President. In basically every state, it’s awarded via popular vote within a state. However, there are a few that award via Congressional district as well. There’s also a movement for states to enter into a compact to award electors based on the national popular vote.
I set all that up to say that there are state laws – meaning passed by local legislatures and signed by governors. There is an untested legal theory that because the Constitution simply says “state legislatures” determine how electors are awarded, that state legislatures can unilaterally change these rules at a whim. Meaning PA’s red legislature can say, we award our electors to whichever candidate comes last in the alphabet or something.
I’m not saying you’re wrong, I’m saying the whole idea that a faithless elector is even possible irritates me, so I’m going to bury my head in the sand about it being a real problem until it either looks like it might matter or there’s an opportunity to do something about it.
The obvious reform is to have the campaigns pick the electors… and then pick rich people who you can get to sign super abusive contracts to not be faithless and sue them into a hole in the ground if they break it. This is one of the only times you’ll ever see me propose sending in only rich people, it’s because I want this choice to have a lot of collateral at stake for every single person who has the option to be a faithless elector. This is only if we can’t just pass a federal law that eliminates the actual elector position and just assigns the votes officially without the stupid ritual part.
It didn’t prevent Trump so it already failed its one job. Time to go.
Got it - that’s what Levin is talking about. So probably just have to fade a few faithless electors or legislature going rogue then going to SCOTUS and god help us all.
To be clear, I am not concerned with faithless electors, just pointing out that the elector could be from any state.
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this angle is also fun
Lol this is the hot new post to share on deplorable facebook
If Joe wins, congratulations to you all who voted for him.
When the bottom drops out of your 401K that you have saved and sacrificed for all your life, gas prices are soaring, taxes are high, you can’t afford the extras of life, look back & think how good the last 4 years were. You can hate Trump, but his policies helped this country.
The grass isn’t always greener on the other side. Most of the time it’s fertilized by 
So make sure you hug an oil worker today because they are worried sick if they will have a job in the next year.
I hope you look at our farmers, factories, & steel industries, because they will get shipped back to China. Our energy workers who will be without jobs to support their families.
Make sure you tell a solider thanks for serving this country because our military will be downsized & not get raises.
I don’t care if you agree with me or not. I wish the best for this country! I stand for the flag & kneel before God until my last breath.
I wish peace not war but when you tread on my land & want to take my guns, you’ll have a fight. You can only rob the middle class so much before they break.
Time will tell the truth on this election & I believe this wasn’t the right answer.
I will NOT argue, burn cities, loot, rob, or steal because my President didn’t win. I’ll go to work, pay taxes, raise my children, and do what’s right.
Copied and pasted, from a friend of mine.
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Idk if you’re referring to the AP explainer from yesterday, but that sucked shit. It was like “we called it, because we judged that Donald Trump could not win enough of the outstanding vote.” No shit, but why? They’re praying for Biden to pull it out so they don’t have egg on their face, but the reality is if the margin is anywhere less than Biden +1.5, they look pretty stupid.
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Economy tanks under Trump/GWB - soars under Clinton/Obama-Biden. The delusion level.
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Not sure how CNN’s PA analysis went from “500K ballots outstanding” to “370K ballots outstanding” in the last couple hours when only about 15K votes have been posted.
I guess that 763k vote number was wrong last night.
now saying there are 370k votes left, Trump +120k
saying Georgia has 48k votes left, Trump +13k
Just go sit in the corner and eat a shepherd’s pie and try to stay out of the rain. We will let you know who will be running the free world for the next four years when it’s time for you to know kthksbye
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§ 2878. Presidential electors; selection by nominees; certification; vacancies
Purdon’s Pennsylvania Statutes and Consolidated StatutesTitle 25 P.S. Elections & Electoral Districts
The nominee of each political party for the office of President of the United States shall, within thirty days after his nomination by the National convention of such party, nominate as many persons to be the candidates of his party for the office of presidential elector as the State is then entitled to. If for any reason the nominee of any political party for President of the United States fails or is unable to make the said nominations within the time herein provided, then the nominee for such party for the office of Vice-President of the United States shall, as soon as may be possible after the expiration of thirty days, make the nominations. The names of such nominees, with their residences and postoffice addresses, shall be certified immediately to the Secretary of the Commonwealth by the nominee for the office of President or Vice-President, as the case may be, making the nominations. Vacancies existing after the date of nomination of presidential electors shall be filled by the nominee for the office of President or Vice-President making the original nomination. Nominations made to fill vacancies shall be certified to the Secretary of the Commonwealth in the manner herein provided for in the case of original nominations.
Yeah the only way AP and Fox don’t look bad is if they somehow had insider knowledge that the E-day dropoffs in Maricopa would be at least neutral for Biden (as opposed to Maricopa E-day in person which crushed for Trump).
Which begs the question (I like the new usage a lot better, old one was so confusing, I had to look it up every time) - do we know how E-day dropoffs went in the rest of the state yet?
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Debating whether I should laugh in my grandma’s face and get cut out of the will.
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Can you remind her that the economy did great under Obama/Biden so maybe it won’t be as bad as she thinks?
I mean, I believe the PA SOS about how many ballots are outstanding.
They interviewed PA SOS, who said 500k outstanding. Then someone from her office reached out to CNN to let them know that 500k was an old number and 370k was the current number of ballots.
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As long as there is still 100K outstanding for PhilCo it still looks gucci