Summer LC thread

How many houses are in the community? That seems like a lot of value for $100.

HOAs have benefits too. You are essentially sharing the costs of infrastructure and amnesties which otherwise you would pay for some other way.

Of course there are horrible HOA stories but there are millions of HOAs running and 99.99% of the time they are fine.

HOAs are fine. Just don’t be the rusty nail that’s sticking out, who most people (including you) would want hammered anyway. CA has a lot of regs and such on HOAs. They almost always win if push comes to shove because they are usually right. $200 is cheap for HOA fee.

I would be perfectly happy if she was a sex worker. I simply don’t attribute consensual sex work with social stigma because I actually know many sex workers. It is a career no different than any other. It has good and bad parts, opportunity and exploitation.

Some of my sex worker friends make north of $250k/year.

Being anti sex work is literally nothing more than ascribing some magical power to sex which simple does not exist. It’s pure religious bs.

I guarantee you know a sex worker, you just don’t know they work in sex because of this exact stigma.

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I could never imagine being a proctologist. I simply don’t find it appealing sticking my finger up other peoples’ bums. Being a proctology patient for a living seems to be even worse.

This is a very good article debunking many of the trafficking claims commonly made.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-watch/wp/2014/03/27/lies-damned-lies-and-sex-work-statistics/

I mean, come on. It’s often illegal and has an enormous social stigma attached to it, I think it’s a bit much to claim it’s not substanitally different from being an accountant.

Are you sure your constant fucking crying didn’t degrade the plastic? Salt water is pretty corrosive.

Sure the illegality and stigma make it different but that’s the whole point. Both of those should be removed.

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I’m guessing your HOA is for the main subdivision, and not for a community inside it, correct? How new is the community? One house we had that was new construction got in right before every other new community in the area (2003) added HOAs/SIDS/LIDS, etc. We have a SID where we live now that we just have taken out of escrow. That one’s like $42 something a month. So we have a particular community HOA (maybe 120-150 houses), subdivision HOA (probably eventually 3k plus houses, but I’m not sure how far the subdivision extends), and a SID all totaling about $150 a month.

Yeah, I’m not necessarily anti-HOA, even if some are horrible, but I definitely want to know what the hell my $200/mo pays for. That’s more than either of my gas/electric and cable/internet bills.

I strongly suggest joining the board. It takes a few hours a year and let’s you directly impact if your HOA is insane or not.

I’ve steered mine to be totally casual.

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Yeah find a benevolent HOA board and you’ll be ok, maybe, until you aren’t and or the “good” ones sell and move out.

It only takes one bad one to ruin you. I’m not taking that risk with the single largest investment I will ever make in my life, however minuscule. It’s too easy to avoid.

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Don’t they send yearly budget/expenditure statement to you? This should probably be available from them.

You basically suggest I think trafficking is funny or not real. You know that’s a stupid lie. Try discussing in good faith.

I don’t know what the point is in swapping anecdotes. Johnny ran into a young woman who was being trafficked. Clovis moves in circles where he knows sex workers who are happy and make 250K a year. None of this has any bearing on anything except as a monument to the human tendency to exaggerate the salience of personal experience.

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I posted an article with actual data. I mention the personal experience only to point out I have deep experience in the community so might know a little about it.

I mention the high end sex workers I know to point out that it’s a real career. Obviously the vast percentage of sex workers we work with in our organization make far less.

Right, well on the question of what you do about trafficking, I agree that decriminalisation is a much better idea than cracking down. From your link earlier:

New South Wales, Australia, decriminalized sex work in 1995, and a subsequent government-sponsored 2012 study found ” . . . no evidence of recent trafficking of female sex workers . . . in marked contrast to the 1990s when contacted women from Thailand were common in Sydney . . . ”

Prostitution is still illegal in my state of South Australia and there is still trafficking going on here. Women get flown in from Asia and turned out for a week or two. My ex worked in sexual health so I have some knowledge of the issues. If you legalise then other sex workers with knowledge of what is going on will help police the industry. If it’s illegal sex workers will not speak to law enforcement.

Unfortunately decriminalization wont totally eliminate trafficking because there will always be a market for underage sex. As you correctly point out it does allow consensual sex workers to monitor for trafficking and safely report it to the police. Also, police resources now spent targeting consensual sex work could be allocated to targeting traffickers and those seeking underage sexual services. Both should be treated extremely harshly by the law.

I already made the completely obvious point that everyone wants trafficking stopped. The only way to do so is to accurately asses the problem so appropriate laws can be enacted to target the criminals. The moral panic directly and measurably harms the ability to target trafficking. See SESTA- FOSTA for a recent example.