Summer LC thread

Actual trafficking

For example the current laws in the US mean a woman can be charged for trafficking herself.

https://mobile.twitter.com/mehdirhasan/status/1169629229488775168

https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/west-virginia-state-senator-charged-prostitution-65243571

“Authorities found used condoms, uncapped hypodermic needles and "an unimaginable amount” of human feces and urine throughout Clark’s house. Before one of their meetings, she told Maroney her house was messy and he replied he didn’t care about a mess, the complaint said.”

I’ve cleaned litter boxes so I can imagine a lot

But laws and their application is how trafficking is stopped. It’s THE issue.

The current laws make it much harder to capture traffickers while making it less safe for consensual sex workers.

We both have the same goal. We should just be looking at the right way to reach it. I submit that having a bunch of old white men and bible thumping religious people draft laws is not the correct way.

I’ve never heard of HOA’s on a house before, is that normal in Cali? It’s pretty common in apartments/condos in big cities on the east coast, but I’ve never had one myself.

HOAs are always houses I think. Condo boards cover townhouses condos etc.

Like everything there are good and bad. I suggest joining so you can have a voice. I’ve been president of mine for 7 years lol.

Speaking for myself, I would never buy a home that was covered by a HOA (condo or single-family house). I don’t want to give my neighbors (a random sampling of the population which will surely include some major assholes) power to tell me what to do with my own property. I am fine complying with local zoning, building code, etc. laws but getting scolded or fined if I put my bins in the wrong spot or not being able to choose my own house color is right out.

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What do the HOA fees cover? There are massive differences.

It really depends. You should be able to look into the specific HOA to find out if they’ve made weird decisions. Some HOAs are horrific, and if this house is in one of those, you shouldn’t buy it. It’s not worth the headache. Most are just standard annoyances, and are becoming much more common on new construction.

Our house is in an HOA-governed area and it’s been zero issues for the 9 years we’ve been here. Annual fees are about $300 and they primarily cover landscaping for the entrance to our neighborhood. HOA seems to be completely inactive as far as I can tell, which is perfect. (For example, we’ve had a couple of political yard signs up for several months, which is technically against the HOA rules, but no one has said anything to us.)

My main HOA fee covers specific community maintenance, community pool, etc. It’s $57 a month. The Master Plan HOA covers the entire planned development, infrastructure, maintenance, etc. The biggest thing you see are parks and groundskeeping in most of these fees. The Master Plan one is $50 per month.

Each HOA sends the budget out for everything once per year, and there are several meetings throughout the year for concerns to be addressed.

HOAs are common in somewhat newer subdivisions in the suburbs in California. They vary quite a bit. It’s not uncommon for there to be some difficulties, but you can evaluate for yourself whether the $200 is worth whatever Services they provide. Johnny truant has an HOA that I think he’s very happy with, and they have very nice common amenities.

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You left out the punchline:

Maroney is the chairman of the Senate committee on health and human resources.

You left out the topper:

in West Virginia

Sorry, couldn’t resist.

I hate mine so much. They outsource to some company that never answers the phone or calls you back. They changed my ID # one time, so they couldn’t figure out my auto-bill pay checks were coming from me. Come home to notice about a potential lien on my property. That’s always fun.

The worst was after living there one week I left my phone at the pool late at night, then went back at 7am and it was gone. Someone told me the pool guy was there at 6am and I bet he got it. I kept calling because I know they have security footage. A whole weekend and no one would call me back or alert the local security guard who I could never find. I tracked my phone to an address. If the pool boy lived around there I bet we could have called him and got it back. But they were so useless it was too late.

But boy do they take their $400 a month and then occasionally add extra charges for no reason. No idea where all that money goes because they don’t do crap. I wonder if someone is siphoning money. Yes I am too lazy to go to the board meetings and I usually get home too late anyway. Still hate them.

Edit: I’m in a condo so nm. :stuck_out_tongue:

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A guy I work with got a letter from his HOA last month stating that he owed them some $3500 in unpaid HOA fees, which he had already paid. Much like tax issues, the burden was on him to prove that he had paid them. The poor bastard was scrambling around looking for bank statements and canceled checks from 3-4 years ago. He’s still trying to get it straightened out but he thinks he’s almost got everything. A few of his neighbors got similar letters, all have paid and are current according to them, anyway.

Not sure about your state, but In FL an HOA can foreclose on your house over unpaid fees. Courts have consistently sided with them over homeowners in case after case, including a rather famous one where an older couple was threatened with foreclosure on their home in their 55+ community because their daughter and grandchildren moved in after losing their home in the recession. Another Tampa couple was fighting eviction in 2017 over a $150 payment, which they even have proof of making in the form of a canceled check.

I would never, under any circumstances, buy a home covered by an HOA.

The problem is you’re telling people they need to be pro-sex work. Do you even know what that prefix means? Would you want your daughter to be a sex worker?

I expect Clovis will say that he would be happy for her if that’s what she wanted to do. My expectations would be different if I knew he had a daughter.