Star Wars - The Rise of Skywalker

I avoided all trailers & spoilers before going in, so

personally, I thought the return of Lando was great

the sith congress was chilling, and I like that one was never totally sure whether they were there or not, or what exactly they were - it added to their spookiness

Rey’s encounter with her sith self was an incredibly engaging cinematic moment

Finn’s hair was cool

the droid love (Leia’s line, mostly) feels like an appeal to our burgeoning AI overlords

C-3PO cracking jokes was the my biggest disappointment; it was totally out of character, not accounted for, and added nothing to the story

the new force powers in the trilogy - freezing lasers, moving lasers, holding bodies - were cool visually, but I don’t think they were necessary to achieve their purposes and there is no justification for their sudden existence; ETA - also, the mental entanglement thing okay I think there was room for that, but teleporting objects was a bridge too far

On the whole, the film was an incredibly well thought out and well executed production, honoring its inception and exploring its potential, while maintaining a multi-generational approachability.

That take is mind-boggling to me. I mean I can see enjoying it for what it is, which even I kind of did, but I can’t even begin to imagine describing it as well thought out. But as my mother used to say, that’s what makes the world go round!

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But that’s the thing. Nobody is expecting something avant garde or something that will change the whole genre. You can compare it to something like the Harry Potter series. I understand that it’s not completely fair as that story was fully developed, but the HP movies were critical and commercial successes because they were just fundamentally sound, if not ground breaking, movies. Directing, acting, screenplay adaptation was just solid across the board, which you can’t say for Star Wars since Jedi at the absolute latest.

As for the new trilogy, is there a good explanation for why they didn’t do the obvious and just have the republic/good guys “in control” and the empire sympathizers basically in the role of the rebels in the original trilogy? Seems like that would be much easier to write while respecting the conclusion of Jedi, rather than having all of that undone by stuff that happened off screen.

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The success of the rebellion did not reestablish the republic, it merely fell the empire.

“What happened in between” is a gold mine for future content creators. The trilogies have always been canonical reference points, not a contiguous narrative.

If only a company that was good at fairy tales was put in charge of this.

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Speak for yourself. The HP movies are mostly clumsy and sometimes atrocious adaptations but beloved for their source material.

Return of or The Last?

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The thing I don’t understand about CGI isn’t why it still looks fake as fuck in 2019. It’s how they can spend $300M for amazing cinematography and then overlay 3D character models sourced from Fiverr.

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I don’t know about that.

What is true is the special effects from the original films, as they were originally shot, look better than the revised effects Lucas added when he fucked up the movies. That CG stuff from the late 90s or whatever looks absolutely terrible now.

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Saw the movie last night, I wasn’t planning on seeing it but my brother wanted to go. I liked it, it was kind of dumb but whatever. It was mostly fun. Loved all the little digs at TLJ. Chewie getting a medal was lol. Kylo saying ouch was hilarious, and I loved his facial expression when he got the green lightsaber at the end of the movie. Emperor was great as always. Dude just loves being evil, a joy to watch. Yeah the movie was too dumb and too long with too much stuff in it. But I was entertained.

Thinking of any in particular? Lawnmower_Man Reacts to Bad CGI (8 million views)

This is pretty cool. Howell is the 21-year-old guy who died when he tackled the gunman at UNC.

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This was laughably bad.

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Where was this established? I only watch the movies. If this was in some book only the hard core nerds read I say screw it and start over. Like I think TFA could have been much better with some tweeks. Make Leia some big shot chancellor in the new republic who is worried about a presently weak but emerging threat (snoke/ren) that everybody dismisses as “ok boomer” hysteria. Luke being some isolated loner makes complete sense as he never showed any interest or desire in obtaining power… So the core of the story as bringing Luke out of retirement is fine. This isn’t bold or innovative but I think a good way to start, especially if you’re releasing episode 7 before 8 and 9 have been mapped out.

This is all fine and good as long as the trilogies don’t suck! They are supposed to be the flagship of the whole brand. The first 3 movies being about a huge struggle to destroy the empire, then basically having the empire reestablished off screen is just bad story telling imo. The trilogies don’t have to be contiguous, but they need to do a better job actually showing the audience about the things they have told us to care about.

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Well said.

These aren’t canon anymore, but if you’re a reader and want a WOW WTF character arc, check out the EU books about Jacen Solo, son of Han and Leia before the re-quels. His journey to the dark side is everything you hoped to see in the movies.

His journey isn’t some nonsensical temptation without a hint of conflict. Did anyone feel at all worried about Rey? I never did.

Jacen is tempted by the dark side because he is given a vision that the New Republic and Jedi will fail and collapse unless he accomplishes this one thing that is beyond his power unless he gives in to the dark side FOR JUST THIS ONCE.

Except it’s never just once. Soon he believes this power is necessary to manifest the full scope of goodness his parents and the Jedi hope to achieve.

I’m working myself up just thinking about them. So good.

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Eh… as someone who never read the books I think the movies were perfectly enjoyable and made sense. Way better than the prequels and new trilogy. Which either didn’t make sense (new trilogy) or were just plain bad (prequels)

Return

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The problem is that this last trilogy was developed more with fan service than storytelling in mind. It‘s like Boeing being run by economists instead of engineers. It‘s a failure of modern America.
Fuck capitalism. Merry Christmas everyone!

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