The Mountain broke the deadlift record, 1104 lbs by god lol teh Viper lol Dorne
I think second most valuable is a fine viewpoint. Where I strongly disagree is that in that case Rodman was “way more valuable” than Pippen.
Pippen was too good for almost anyone to be “way more valuable” than him. Granted “way more valuable” is subjective.
He averaged over 5 offensive rebounds per game for six seasons in a row. Leading the league in total rebounds each of those years. His lowest eFG% in those six years was .444 and highest was .571. Highest two scoring averages was 9.8 and 7.1 PPG, lowest was 4.7. I think some modern teams could fit him in somewhere.
You always have outliers obviously but practically no current NBA player under is a worse offensive player than Rodman. I would also argue that some of his amazing oreb abilities were due to his speed advantage over opposing big man, which won’t be as apparent these days.
I mean sure, he could develop some sort of game, but without any improvement there I don’t see him as being more than a Torrey Craig type role. His FT% was atrocious so keeping him on the court is legitimately a struggle.
He averaged ~2 apg on his career. I didn’t dive into advanced numbers here, but at least on the bulls he had a pretty decent offensive scheme to rack up more assists if he was good at it. Grabbing all those oreb should also help.
He wasn’t a smart offensive player that couldn’t shoot like Draymond. He was actually bad as far as I remember. But it’s kinda winging it hot take here, I need to dive into numbers a lot more seriously to back up my claims.
Maybe parsing here a bit, but him knowing his role made him a smart offensive player.
He didn’t want the ball in his hands, a guy that moves the ball quick is a good thing. I remember him getting boards and giving it up asap.
I understand your argument fwiw. It’s something you conceptualize as either working or not.
Yeah he rarely if ever tried to generate assists off his offensive boards. He would almost always just kick it out rather than try to find an assist or lay it in.
The point of this was indicative of what a poor scorer he was.
Not that he could do it if he wanted to. (Just trying to communicate clearly.)
Did everyone ITT actually watch Rodman when he was playing? Just curious. This is my favorite game of his.
Paul Anderson could have beaten that if he tried
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Haven’t clicked yet but that’s gotta be the Brickowski game.
Him getting in Malone’s head was great too.
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the Detroit Bad Boys 30 for 30 is on espn2 right now
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I’d move these posts to the NBA thread but everyone that posts itt is the same people ftmp.
If anyone complains I can.
Is that the one where they show Rodman being betrayed by his surrogate dad Chuck Daly? I just can’t right now. (I know Daly didn’t really do anything wrong but that’s how it went down in Rodman’s mind).
I think knowing your role is kinda an excuse here. Sure, it’s better that he doesn’t try to generate points of oReb if he doesn’t know how to, but it’s not a positive quality. Reggie Evans didn’t shoot either.
Rodman was awesome. I’m not hating on him in anyway. I just believe defenses today, contrary to what the Barkley’s of the world might suggest, are way smarter at exploiting such glaring holes in a team offense.
I’ve never watched it. Sounds like a loyal guy.
One thing about Rodman that mirrors Green is how smart they are. Rodman is way, way more under control tho.
He was plodding.
This assumes Rodman wouldn’t have reacted to this, and everyone says his basketball IQ is very high, right? Rodman would have reacted to his era.
Could be, but he never showed anything to suggest he has that ability. If anything, I would be more worried about his offensive rebounding skills being challenged by quick athletic wing-span freaks of today.
Good point.
His value drops precipitously if he’s not special there.