Severance on Apple TV+

Big guy was on some Netflix show set in Australia about an assassin with amnesia or something

ETA it was called The Tourist

I’m not sure. I just rewatched the season 1 finale and Irv has mementos of his father and stuff, which suggests his outie has had an uninterrupted existence. But you’re right, I’m not sure how the testing floor elevator would be imprinted into his brain.

This show is a masterpiece. That finale is absolutely bonkers. Watching the innies process the outside world in real time is amazing.

I was not as keyed into the fact that outie Irv was already on the trail of Lumon as I am now. How did he get a list of severed employees? Who had he already contacted? I now think he was calling someone other than Irv.

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I’ve rewatched all but the finale of season 1, and I will do the finale as well as the first two episodes of the new season to complete my “rewatch” before s02e03.

That Irving outie thing probably wouldn’t have occured to me otherwise, so I appreciate you letting us know. Now I have another thing to look out for.

I (already) agree he was probably not calling Burt. That never made any sense to me, with Burt following him.

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Is it a tribute to the theme of the show that this thread is in the Sundry Chitchat section rather than the Arts & Entertainment section?

S1 Finale was incredible. The sequence at the end rapidly changing between outie storylines was amazing. The acting from each of them was fantastic.

And I too was very curious how/why outie Irv had the list of names and the map with Burts location. We know he couldnt have smuggled though out of the severed floor, so…?

As for Gemma, my theory is that Lumon is working on being able to employ people after they have died. Like keeping the innie alive even after the outie no longer exists. I also am going to throw out a guess that Ms. Huang is Mark and Gemmas child somehow, but never existed as an outie?

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He’s on lots of good shows.

My son is two episodes from finishing S1.

I’m going to make him wait three years to start S2.

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This was my thought as well. I’m still watching, but I’m not at all confident this ends well.

I did not watch Lost but would be very surprised if Severance doesn’t all end up fitting together. The only thing that ever seemed like it was weird just to be weird was the goats, and it does seem like they’ll be back. If Lumon is somehow growing/regrowing people or their consciousnesses, maybe the goats are somehow involved with that. Anyway, just given where we are so far I think this show has earned a fair amount of trust.

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It it possible the severed floor isn’t an actual place but some type of virtual reality? There are several things that go against this, but I can’t entirely rule it out. For example, Helena watching video of the floor on an old CRT set makes it seem like it’s a place. But that could also be the record of the virtual space.

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It’s likely the doctor. Either her, or somebody we haven’t met yet.

With a military background, is it possible that Irv got Severed as part of some kind of mission to bring Lumon down?

It’s funny, I enjoy speculating about what’s happening, but I also enjoy the reveal from the show. I looked at the Severance subreddit and it’s just way too much, people going through the thing frame-by-frame. I don’t really need to figure it all out, but I do want to figure a little bit out!

But that subreddit is great to find stuff like this

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I watched S1 long ago but unlike most people I guess I’m not obsessed with it. It was fine but now I don’t really remember anything about it besides people have at work and at home personalities that are walled off from each other.

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I just started the severance podcast With Ben Stiller and Adam Scott. They’re filling in some of the blanks.

10 min recaps on YouTube is my goto for most complex shows these days. Totally worth it.

https://x.com/CLYDED0UG/status/1514425964419334145

One of the things I really enjoyed on a rewatch of S1 was the Dylan’s apparent contempt for the other department(s). “Your eggs look like shit!”… plus for me the biggest LOL is when Walken shows up in the MDR room and Dylan instinctively grabs his stapler and brandishes it as a weapon.

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haven’t watched S1 since it was on so I should prob do that before jumping into this but a couple thoughts

feels like so many themes going on with this show but a big one for me is nature/nurture. Helly by nature seems like a take no shit iconoclast, who in the outie world happened to be born into the worst possible family for that.

I like how they designed the innie world to feel supremely oppressive and pent-up, but because it’s so severed from so many of the expectations that can fuck up outie people in the actual world (family, society, politics, chicago sports…), that it seems easier for the innies to live more authentic lives

Irving naturally seems pretty private and solitary and gay. But do we know for a fact that outie Irving is actually out as gay? It would be a nice touch if he were out in the innie world and closeted in the outie world. Probably that’s wrong though, I don’t remember S1 enough. Plotwise I don’t understand what’s up with Irving’s story at all

Dylan’s the best, he seems like an instinctively protective stand-up guy who goes to bat for his colleagues in general and irving in particular. And in the outie world he seems like a really devoted dad. So it was sweet that it was his innie’s knowledge that he’s an outie dad was what broke him

And fetid moppet was funny but that felt like a clue. No idea if character development in the innie world can bubble up into the outie world like Milchick was suggesting to Mark, but if super privileged outie Helena keeps watching her servile “not a real person” workdrone Helly actually have a more better and more passionate life than she’s having, then that’s gonna boomerang right back down to the morlock world and Lumon has a problem

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you guys are way better at figuring out plots than I am. I like trying but when I watch shows the main thing I’m thinking about is themes and maybe this is partly why I’ve never followed the plot of a spy movie ever. So at this point in shows like Severance I just assume that all my story assumptions are going to be used against me, and in that spirit it sure feels like S2 is making a lot of head fakes that Mark’s sister is very involved. I don’t remember thinking that in S1, but then there was that whole weird retreat and wasn’t she connected to the senator’s wife? (But then after the diner scene with Mark in s2e2, the first cut was to a goldfish or a literal red herring, I’m not an ichthyologist beats me)

Same deal with Ricken. Ricken totally grew on me, he’s comes off like such a dopey golden retriever, but last episode I started getting worried that he also has the vibe of being a more friendly more dolty equally bulky and beardy Eagan?

yeah they for sure wanted us to wonder if ms. huang was their kid, right?

btw it’s easy to tag and untag spoilers but I also don’t care if we do