On a scale of 1 to Toxic Clown Crue, what is the toxicity level of labelling a group of people a “Toxic Clown Crue”?
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Like a 3 tops. What would you rate belittling someone for mental health issues or calling a public person a ■■■■ when you know its likely to make someone else uncomfortable?
That’s pretty bad, yeah. I mean, can you even imagine?
2ish. What else defines the Toxic Clown Crue?
Is this the part where you ignore my points give me a bunch of homework then nitpick like the 12th thing I say? I guess that would be toxic too. Anyways I think if that was all he got permaed for that it was excessive and that his request to have posts purged should be honored. Maybe people who come in every moderation thread threatening to leave should do so? How is this an unreasonable position?
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I answered both your questions.
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There’s no limit to one’s imagination.
I didn’t say it wasn’t and that wasn’t the part of your post I responded to. It’s not unreasonable even though the people who are “on your side” seem to think the exact opposite. A lot of mixed signals being put out here.
I was really just curious about who was in the Toxic Clown Crue. I mean, it’s not toxic to toss that label out if you’re correct.
i’m just amazed you all don’t see it
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For the most part to label people is toxic but to label behaviors is healthy. Really not projecting here or assuming your motives but feel most of my posting ITT has been fair.
It is fair, that’s why I was only talking about the Toxic Clown Crue part. I mean, just the vague nature of it puts a lot of people, myself included, in an awkward position and kinda begs the question, in the sense that if we don’t agree they’re toxic clowns then we’re supporting toxic clownery.
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I’d say the admin reading private PMs that he swore he would never read is a bigger problem than the couple of people complaining about moderation
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nah that’s standard
lol Jfc at thinking posters here are the nut low of anywhere after posting on 2p2 with white supremacists. You need a red puffy nose to complete your clown outfit?
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Let us know what rules they come up with so we can use them here…
Adulting is not a part of any of this.
Should have turned your encryption on my dude, it’s mostly your fault
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It’s okay to take things too seriously temporarily.
None of this stuff is okay to be upset about in perpetuity. That is the problem.
A group of people here have consistently shown themselves incapable of resetting themselves and hurting the forum in the process.
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Unstuck has done an incredible amount of good, both for its individual and collective members and - through political organization and charitable collaboration - the broader world.
Watching this place deteriorate is a legit tragedy, and feels like losing family over a trivial Thanksgiving argument. It seems especially absurd that a place with so many socialist and communist ideals is being torn apart by our unwillingness to set aside short-term personal affronts for the greater good.
I hope we can turn things around and keep this place going, because there’s a lot more I’m interested in learning from you all. But damn, there’s still a lot worth grieving here.
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I apologize for being obnoxious and heated, in trying to lay out my point of view I only added to the toxicity.
Seeing all these long-term regs leave over middle school BS is very frustrating and sad after this group has held together through so much. Weren’t we just talking about expanding and making podcasts and shit?
@RiskyFlush @JohnnyTruant @microbet @zarapochkas_ghost you guys have added a lot to this place but I get it if it’s not fun or healthy for you to post here and you want to walk away.
The best thing any of the grownups here can do is ignore the drama completely, keep posting your usual bullshit, and hope it simmers down with minimal losses. Engaging the trolls only accelerates the rate at which the mods get frustrated and leave.
The good news is that this community has always had blatantly disruptive posters who would be snap-banned from any other forum. Lirva, ikes, the SMP crew, etc. Somehow it survives. I think Wookie derives sexual gratification from having posters who constantly whine about him, tbh.
Seems unlikely as we have a very small group of people trying to destroy it. A decent size group who are not fully grasping this and / or want to deal with it with an unending string of super short temp bans and community voting.
It’s likely going to be gone before the second group realizes it.
It certainly is unfortunate. I tried again to stay out of all this dumb threads but this one is where most of the work to undermine this place is. So we can’t have people keep ignoring the drama.
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This 100% describes my attempts to engage Sabo in good faith. It was like arguing with JV on P&S - just pure tactics, zero substance.
My impression was that he sees himself as a revolutionary leader whose only goal is to inspire, rile up, and persuade.
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