You mean like an apartment overlooking pool girls?
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Yes please. I don’t think I’ll ever get into those markets, but I’m curious to learn about them.
The damndest thing about this whole thing
I fully appreciate what Sabo was doing when he demanded UP give him an apology if UP voted to permaban him
bravo sir…bravo…
fuck it unban everyone
it wont fucking matter unless we actually try to make some rules that have escalating bans
Who is even banned that would post here otherwise?
Sabo
Inso0
Who else?
(Not counting self exiles/bans)
In the past two weeks we have had
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One month please and thank you. I cannot take any more of this.
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Two weeks then perma please. I asked once before and it didn’t happen. I’m just tired and want to check out of social media.
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Can I have the two-week pre-perma ban please? I get most of my news and online engagement from this forum and need to decide whether that’s worth the constant drama and hostility regularly on display. It’s also not healthy for me to scroll this shit while quarantined in a hotel room with covid. Thanks.
Two weeks and then perma please. I just can’t take Trolly anymore.
Don’t forget about @anon15325461
Two weeks Cuse style (silence), please
Two weeks then perma please.
the fuck are we doing???
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Sabo is probably the only permabanned poster who follows what’s happening in the slightest (and I don’t know if he really wants to post here or not - he doesn’t want to be banned though). I believe there is precedent for self-banned posters to come back whenever they want.
Do you really need to do that? Has this place suffered because of not enough ban? Have the few days here and there of no-churchill or no-victor or no-watevs or no-riverman or no-jman or no-caffeinneeded made this place better? You think bans make people behave better in the future? People are going “damn, I got a ban, I better stay in line”? Maybe the punishment model doesn’t work. The ultimate punishment is toothless anyway as anyone can make new accounts. Ironic that Sabo is not posting because he’s one of the minority who haven’t made a ghost account and is respecting the site. Maybe if everyone agreed with every ban or no one ever got upset when they thought a ban was unfair it would be quieter here with bans, but that’s not the real world.
Like Fly got 100 bans and didn’t change and people like Luckbox learned how to suck without getting banned. That worked and made things better?
If this place was moderated to the standards you think are correct, do you think you should have been banned in the last few months for your body of work?
If so, do you think it would have improved the forum? Would it improve your posting?
Serious question, i think you’d agree you’re doing a type of eye for an eye with the malcontents
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Somewhat true, and I’m wasting my time acting like you’re not just playing games, but essentially the only “post in your forum in a way you won’t appreciate” is voting for permabans. Only one person on the site has ever voted for one* and there may have been a couple vetoes for people with no perma votes, but I’m not sure of that.
- eta: this doesn’t count votes after someone was invited. Almost all the people from the other site voted against perma for jmakin, but not all.
The feuds sure, but for the most part, no one outside of the feuding parties cared until the moderation.
I paid very little attention to PU. This is not 2p2 though and none of the people here on either side of the feuding are Luckbox or toothsayer. We ~all used to get along more or less at one point. Something fractured this into large camps and imo it was the policing, not the squabbles.
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And has been pointed out, marty and jal fight sometimes. No one else gets in the middle of it. I don’t know what they fight about. I get along with both of them just fine. Neither of them are ban supporters or tell other people when and where they can post, so it’s no big deal for the site.
There have been a few other fights, but without the banning they just settle without adding something else to fight about.
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I by the way think this place would be better with more perma bans. It won’t be good by any means, but it would be better than it currently is and it should have happened a year ago.
Wookie’s post here -
Pretty much sums it up. There’s no actual coming back from this. It’s either admit that is who you are, retract all of what you said, fight back or walk away.
No one was going for the first two options, some chose 3 and some chose 4. Now you could say that’s only wookie, this and that person said i’m whatever, but it’s not like that. Wookie and the support he had were the dominant force here at the time. Anyone who wasn’t paying attention took their view on the matter and built on from there.
At that point all of the “uk bros” (which now included anyone who disagreed with wookie’s post above) should have been perma’d and the forum would have survived in a much more boring but manageable fashion.
(just to be clear - there were many better solutions to the problem, but on the actual question of “UP - better than what it is now if all of them were perma’d” the answer is yes in my mind).
The question is always who this is. A lot of people (You too maybe) may have thought it was like 3 people at first. But it would always have been a cascade of people and it would always have been ugly.
I don’t doubt that, but the longer they waited while maintaining the position above the bigger the cascade become.
Just in case anyone missed it, this is Jalfrezi taking an unprovoked shot at a member that is not currently posting here, because he’s an asshole.
I’m seeing more stuff reported in this thread. I was letting most stuff go in here since it seems tensions and I was hoping people would hash this out here without spilling over to the rest of the forum.
However, this thread is pretty detailed and getting into old personal fights, so going forward stop, or there will be moderation (this is a blanket warning as if I were to issue bans based on the posting in this thread, most of you would get a time-out).
Apparently you’re not accepting PMs at the moment? I was hoping to raise something else with you.
I’m not even sure how to block PMs, so if I did it was an accident.