RFC: Permaban Jmakin?

[anon84698652]

Those are 50 UP members you are shitting on.

[therealrealjmakin]

“we have 56 users”

27 of them are sabo accounts talking to themselves

[j8i3h289dn3x7]

@anon84698652

I don’t know what you’re on about, but will chalk it up to one of your episodes.

Ah yes, the captains are totally here in a good faith effort to improve the forum and are not here solely to inflict maximum carnage.

[anon84698652]

Says the OP who started and stoked this shit show of a thread.

[Churchill]

@therealrealjmakin

27 of them are sabo accounts talking to themselves

says therealrealrealrealrealrealjmakin? and the others accounts that did get banned? cummon

[Jalfrezi]

Far from resolving conflict, the RFC process quickly became a brickbat for people to hit each other with.

[Formula72]

@microbet

It’s not mostly Ikes. A lot of people get mad at a lot of your posts that suggest someone needs to stop posting or be banned. You may think that just the people you are talking about get mad, but other people get mad because they don’t want those people to stop posting or get banned and they don’t want the culture to be one where everyone’s right to post is constantly in question.

I don’t include you in this but some of the captains specifically stopped posting on 22 because they didn’t like some of the crowd that was allowed to post in pol towards the end. I enjoyed reading sabo, inso and even that conspiracy guy on 22 in small doses and prefer that they’d all be allowed to post here. But even the captians group clearly couldn’t handle even a much softer version of a sabo from the right.

[therealrealjmakin]

oh this is rich. the rfc process was spun up largely because of the unholy war you all spun up over the ■■■■ debacle. and then multiple other debacles. and then you guys abused it to fuck this place over, took your ball and left, and are only here to still fuck this place over. cytri et al just said the quiet part out loud. I dont really know how any of you can deny it anymore - if this place is so shit, why are you here? why are you in this thread? you all just show up … out of the goodness of your heart, I suppose?

must be one of my “episodes.” let’s trot out some other common mental health stigma buzzwords now. can i get a nutjob? psycho?

[Churchill]

@therealrealjmakin

if this place is so shit, why are you here?

we love ‘little dumpster fires’?

[Aofrantic]

This kind of behaviour can’t be healthy man, if you’re asking people, having people send you anything that might get you upset, what are you doing?

All the best dude, this is too much though.

[microbet]

@Formula72

@microbet

It’s not mostly Ikes. A lot of people get mad at a lot of your posts that suggest someone needs to stop posting or be banned. You may think that just the people you are talking about get mad, but other people get mad because they don’t want those people to stop posting or get banned and they don’t want the culture to be one where everyone’s right to post is constantly in question.

I don’t include you in this but some of the captains specifically stopped posting on 22 because they didn’t like some of the crowd that was allowed to post in pol towards the end. I enjoyed reading sabo, inso and even that conspiracy guy on 22 in small doses and prefer that they’d all be allowed to post here. But even the captians group clearly couldn’t handle even a much softer version of a sabo from the right.

You are right that some people on the other forum (not people thought of as Captains) do not want right-wing posters, though, there have been conservative-ish posters (people from UP - so not like real conservatives) invited, some who have accepted.

eta: also, I don’t think any of the people there were calling for bans even on 2p2, but there are people who just left there because they found some posts on 2p2 uncomfortable to be around, and some of those people left here because they found some posts uncomfortable to be around, and I think one person left the “captains” site because they found some posts to be uncomfortable to be around.

[Jalfrezi]

I’ve never started an RFC or campaigned for someone else to start one, so you’re talking to the wrong person here. I think the RFC process is stupidly bureaucratic and unnecessary anyway.

[Xiaolongbao]

We could have had it allllllllllllllllllll

[Aofrantic]

I had forgotten that you joined since you were not a member when I was very active within there. My bad.

[Aofrantic]

You’ve gotten very emotional again and I just dont have it in me to match the level you’ve worked yourself up to, I’m enjoying the hockey game.

Have a good day dude.

[Rugby]

The reality is that literally everyone here could fix the place instantly by being the change they want to see in the world.

Simplest fix ever. Just stop bickering.

• someone wrong on the internet. Make your point once or twice then move on.
• someone posting badly. Move on.
• someone tries to get someone banned. Vote against it and move on.

[emmpee]

@Vict0ar

@Rugby

The reality is that literally everyone here could fix the place instantly by being the change they want to see in the world.

Simplest fix ever. Just stop bickering.

• someone wrong on the internet. Make your point once or twice then move on.
• someone posting badly. Move on.
• someone tries to get someone banned. Vote against it and move on.

Just comply

Or spend another few hundred hours arguing in these stupid threads, up to you.

[Crunchyblack]

I’m not sure we’ve had a single real problem in the history of the discord

[Jalfrezi]

• Someone gets unfairly banned for a long time - no big deal, suck it up pussy!

[Rugby]

Yes. You and victor are both right. That one doesnt work in a vacuum. Which is why there were three points on the list.

More broadly. Theres a clear majority behind.

1. Not perma banning all but the most extreme cases.
2. Allowing the mods to moderate as they best see fit.

Now everyone just needs to make their peace with whichever of these they most object to. Like it’s really “you want it to be one way… it’s the other way” territory" for all of the worst bickerers.