I just can’t imagine that the solution to our problems is to be able to complain about the mods and get into ATF slap-fights more frequently.
Yeah, I’m saying the reason we throttle them now is a really good reason.
Has subtlety died in this forum?
The poll changes the current mod-discretion system to one where threads can only be throttled with a community vote. You voted agree.
I think Bobman may have voted wrong too. Maybe you canceled each other out.
It’s yet another poorly worded poll, I’ve switched my vote.
Oh man you really fucking got me. Maybe only 48% had multiple accounts not 50%+. I really am lying scum! LOL at self-banning like a child and then coming back to do this.
Are you really laughing out loud?
The lack of empathy from this crowd is amazing.
Can you define what I came back to do?
Bubs, it’s ok.
Also I would wager 80%+ were using their original account in the private message thread.
Throttle poll going to need to be throttled very soon.
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Yeah threads going off the rails will happen. Throttling is the least invasive tool to deal with that. Otherwise shutdowns and user bans.
Not sure why we would want to change this. The whole point of the throttle is to slow things down and force people to think a little more before posting.
It’s also not biased, it impacts all users of the thread the same.
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I agree with Keed. A shorter duration might have the same effect but offer more access to those who want to keep things on track.
The time needs to be long enough that people have a real break from the thread. 1 hour is probably the shortest I could see working as intended but I support a reduction as a general guideline.
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Because bans are met so well when given to problem users, regardless of the duration.
I don’t see how taking this away from mods doesn’t lead to more bans if the moderates are doing what they are supposed to be doing.
So then how do you deal with users who are spamming threads with pettiness and bickering back and forth making them unreadable?
Nothing? Bans? How long if bans?
Listen I made my first online post over 40 years ago in 1981. What is going on here rivals some of the worst nonsense I have seen online. No moderation doesn’t work. Moderators not being able to moderate does not work.
If there is a problem with a moderator than bring it up with the community. If the majority of the community disagrees with you accept it. That last bit is the real problem here, not threads being throttled.
I am still waiting for someone from the anti moderator/moderation clique to step up to the plate. Seriously.
Since I am not putting myself out there to be a moderator i choose to support those who do. I don’t try to undermine them at every turn or turn every decision into a soap opera even if I disagree with it.
If I felt a moderator was doing a bad job I would push for removal. If I was in the minority I would accept it or move on.
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6ix has volunteered to mod.
I disagree with many of your other points but I’m not going to push this issue given the poll results.
If I felt a moderator was doing a bad job I would push for removal. If I was in the minority I would accept it or move on.
This is the crux of the whole thing imo. It’s another of those core values that apparently some share and some don’t - and can never be reconciled.
There are a lot of posters in the Captains group I would vote for for mod. 6ix is not one of them.
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Have you considered that it’s out of kindness, rather than apathy or false motives, that this hasn’t happened? Myself and many others have asked Wookie to rotate out, out of respect for community modding and to pass the work and responsibility around. He doesn’t want to.
So what’s the alternative? I need to open a drama-filled “De-mod Lord Wookie!!!1!!” thread, paint him in as bad a light as I can muster, collect and catalogue all perceived misdeeds in order to tear the keys out of his hand? I don’t want to do that. I like him. I don’t want to rile up a gang to disparage him and his work here.
The peaceful solution, as far as I can see, is to go elsewhere. I’d rather not start a new site because I think if 20 people leave here and go somewhere else than both here and somewhere else will be dead in 6 months. So we are work-shopping another solution. I wish you wouldn’t spend so much time disparaging the attempted solution and insulting those looking to keep the band together.
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The threads don’t become unreadable, that is literally an impossible thing to happen now.
I don’t know what other people are thinking, if they’re being disingenuous, but I’m gonna assume you’re not and instead have just internalized how with older software it was actually possible to make threads unreadable. Even the archived 2and2 software you could do the inception-quote thing and actually break the threads!
Working with the community using the established community rules for removing and selecting new mods?
Or you could stir up shit until you get what you want.
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Did you read the rest of my post? The established method for removing a mod is cruel and I’m not interested in that process.
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Yes, it’s patent bullshit.
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