Relocation in light of SCOTUS decisions

Pittsburgh. (Wrong side of the commonwealth, I know.) Is good town, Rivers Casino, there are some good neighborhoods for young, hip couples.

How long is she gonna be just the girlfriend, though. Will marrying her get her citizenship any faster (not suggesting you should do it for that reason)?

Albany sucks balls though as did basically all of New Yok state.

Albany? More like Lolbany.

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Yes, if they have carte blanche in a zone with 70% of the population in it and SCOTUS says 4A applies to the rest, I think they’ll focus on the 70% they have carte blanche to harass.

Oh wow, didn’t realize Pittsburgh was more than 100 miles from the border. That’d be an option then.

(NOTE: I edited this in case she ever stumbles in here, since she knows this place exists. Odds are super low, but blowing the surprise with a forum post is a stupid risk to take.)

Once we are eventually engaged, it’s a question of waiting to plan a big wedding or getting married legally right away and planning the big ceremony and reception to be, well, ceremonial.

The situation with COVID and stuff like this factors in. Once she’s officially a resident with a green card, a lot of stuff gets cheaper - tuition, interest rates on loans, some legal fees go away. She also can’t visit her family without a green card, as she’d almost certainly be denied re-entry on her student visa because the covid era rules are being weaponized by the racists.

So I’m guessing we’ll do a quick official marriage after I propose and plan a celebratory ceremony for 6-18 months later.

Then after official marriage it’s 3 years before she can apply for citizenship, and however long that takes.

Maybe I missed something but why not live in Vegas or Austin?

It’s like 70% of the population that lives there, that’s the 70% number and it’s currently like 95% of their focus. But SCOTUS just ruled they can violate 4A in that zone and there’s no recourse.

Obviously. But I already laid out what I’m worried about…

Whether the 100 mile thing ends up mattering is debatable if it gets to that point, and whether it gets to that point is debatable. But it’s easy to see how it would happen.

Oklahoma!

  • get married
  • emigrate to Portugal

ez game

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Omaha is nice

Apparently Des Moines is too dangerous, needs border patrol for that one flight from Canada once a week.

fwiw I found a version of the map where you can zoom in and most of Pittsburgh is still in the 100 mile zone. You have to be in the southeastern part of Allegheny county or down in the eastern part of Washington county to get out of it.

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Oops, sorry, looking at the map that includes international airports precludes Pittsburgh.

What’s the biggest city in the USA that doesn’t have an international airport?

El Paso? OKC?

You might be right that it’s one of those. Googling this doesn’t give a clear answer but those two seem to be in the running.

To an extent, yes, but they’re going to be kind of like the velociraptor testing the fence that they think exists and over the next few years they’re going to realize there is no fence. Like they do “whatever the fuck they want” but not really. It’s not like they’re breaking down random doors and hauling green card holders to detention centers for deportation, or at least it’s super rare. But it turns out the only recourse if they do that in their border zones is that there could be an administrative complaint filed!

So a Trump or DeSantis POTUS can definitely crank up the fuckery.

I don’t. I think there’s going to be a risk of it for all non-white immigrants, and I think the idea of the risk is going to make it intolerable to live here. The thought of the person I love having to worry about that daily is an intolerable thought to me that causes me pain. I need her to feel safe and happy.

Yes, of course. But this, like many things we discuss on this board, comes down to risk tolerance. Same with COVID or the fall of democracy. When the outcome is that awful, the amount of risk one should be willing to tolerate should be really low.

Especially if the risk will escalate over time and it may get harder/impossible to leave.

Yes, super easy game. Just move 3,400 miles from my entire family and all my friends and a lot of her friends, and 4,500 miles from her entire family and most of her friends, to a place where it will be difficult for me to earn a living, where neither of us have ever set foot.

EZ Game! Thanks for your awesome insight.

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Is that due to airports or it’s just in? That sucks if it’s not due to airports. If it’s due to airports it’s still a gray area likely to be litigated in the coming years so time will tell.

Yeah it’s tough to say whether that’s the case or not but if we do eventually move for this reason I’m definitely not looking to move for this reason twice.

She’s already a long way from her family and friends in Brazil, and most of the friends you mention seem to be online.

Either you think having ICE kicking your door in is a significant possibility, in which case emigration is logical, or you don’t in which case what is this all about?

Once you have EU citizenship you could move to Spain to play poker.