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But they’re not even close. Not in the same ballpark.

It’s like if someone here said “Lebron is the best basketball player I’ve ever seen” then you started posting some videos of your 8 year old nephew hitting a jumper.

I genuinely don’t believe you don’t understand that the other hands aren’t in the same ballpark.

easiest ignore of all time. not interested in moron takes, this is actually becoming pretty interesting without people coming in here with the intent of belittling others and fighting.

it’s even more fucking dumb when you actually follow this and realize these players actually usually play low to mid stakes. these arent nosebleed players. whatever though, cant lead a horse to water and make him drink or whatever

Ok man, a player in a $15 online tournament with 10bb and a gigantic negative ROI calling off with 5 high on the flop is the same as someone calling off 6 figures with one card to come with jack high.

This is a disagreement; there’s not bad faith stuff from either of you.

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Just like I don’t think you’re trolling, I’m confident AOfrantic is posting in good faith too.

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Sure. But you have like, most of the pros itt saying this is the craziest hand they’ve ever seen.

You cant then just say “oh, here’s some other hands where the chip values were a happy meal that are worse!” It doesn’t work that way!

If this hand happened at your local $1/2 game or the pot size was a few dollars or a few hundred nobody cares!

The key to me in the disagreement is that her playing style doesn’t match the hand. Also in those microstakes online MTTs there are people who buyin not realizing they signed up for hours of play and it’s late and they have work in the AM so they punt, or they get tilted, etc.

Yeah, Ive punted off a stack because I don’t want to play for 6 more hours and the buyin is under $20.

Or if I get a free ticket to something that’s super low EV I’ll just play insane and punt or run up a monster stack.

There is a sports freeroll like this for sports bettors on stars. Top 100 get a milly ticket, 4kish runners.

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If you ask someone to show you a crazier hand, and they do, you cant then just say “ that doesn’t count!” It doesn’t work that way!

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…But the stakes matter!

If you watched the NBA Finals or something and said “man, that’s the best basketball I ever saw” and someone replied with a video of their kids game, they’re wrong!

The stakes and the players involved are like 95% of what makes this hand crazy!

I’ve had Royal>straight flush and Royal>Quads before, but both were for under $200 so they’re not in the top 100 of craziest hands I’ve personally played. The stakes matter, a lot when discussing poker hands/spots!

A hugely “complex” spot level 1 of a tournament is 1% as interesting as a less tough spot when ITM or at a FT when the money/ICM matters. This is just very basic stuff!

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What you’re imagining isn’t actually a thing though. Here’s a software engineer who owns a poker RFID company that says your idea is the most common one he sees on social media by people who have no idea how the technology works.

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I’ll check out the video you posted when I’m not at the table, but I’ve seen video of RFID readers passing over cards from about 2 feet away and reading them, and I’ve talked to somebody at a major poker streaming company and they said it’s possible, but the proximity has to be relatively close - like a seat or two away seems doable, same table maybe, further away no.

The person isn’t an expert on RFID specifically but they’ve worked with poker RFID setups a ton obviously.

That vid is already on my watch list but do you have a time stamp on that part for me? Ballpark even?

The Dwan/Eastgate/Barry hand is 100x crazier than any other hand posted today, and is the closest thing to this hand fwiw.

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I timestamped it to 51:25. He also appeared on Ingram’s podcast recently:

https://twitter.com/rflabsinc/status/1580189653738536962

The decks in use are by Faded Spade; they are only HF (not UHF) and have a read range of 5 to 10 cm. He says that to read directionally and from a longer distance than the card spec, you’d need a fairly complicated device that’s quite large and draws a lot of power (would have to be plugged in). In other words, it would be obvious and not concealable, and it probably wouldn’t be that accurate.

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You sure gleaned a lot from those 75 hands.

Every ten posts you making arguing for cheating move me a couple percentage points towards for sure not cheating.

The idea the stakes matter is so weird of a take. Once the money is on the table it’s completely irrelevant what the stakes are. You can’t argue she is terrible at poker but because she is playing these stakes the hand has more importance nor can CW argue she is too good to make this play but again somehow the stakes matter.

Ok if that’s the case then that rules out that method. Maybe the guy I talked to is out of date on the latest RFID info.

My experience at the ft of that freeroll is 100% the opposite of this. Guys were scared as fuck by the stakes.

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