he wanted a hand, two have been posted
Would you concede that Bryan isn’t involved in this particular scheme? Also, let’s assume one of our cheaters has an RFID reader at the table. Please explain the the exact details of how that works because I don’t understand it. If I sit in that game with my trust RFID reader, how do I know I’m seeing Gman’s cards and not the muck pile, or Robbi’s hand, or whatever?
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Ryan Reiss called a guy with T high on a stream but lol donkaments and pot-sized stacks. Orders of magnitude different from this hand though. There’s a sick Q high call I remember but it’s not the Lex / Doyle hand. This was J high no draw with a card to come.
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Yeah if there’s an RFID reader scheme, he’s very unlikely to be involved. IMO the other one is way more likely.
Directional aim of the cheating device. Also if you somehow start reading the muck pile you’re going to get a bunch of cards, not two.
And then when you look these people up on sharkscope or whatever you will see a -80% ROI
Come on man, it’s literally impossible to have a hand in a $15 online tournament crazier than a $350k cash hand.
Thr cEV Shabhan lost was like $4!
sure, that’s fair, except the argument it’s seemingly addressing that NO ONE can POSSIBLY make a bad call like that EVER and our lack of hh’s (i forget live hands nearly immediately after i play them) seems to say something something, I don’t know what - I think if someone genuinely thinks that fish dont make very bad calls like this all the time at any stakes then you really probably don’t have that much experience or play in very tough games.
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No one ever said no one has ever made a play that bad. If you saw it for play money no one gives a shit.
Yes, you’ll see bad stuff for play money or pennies. The stakes matter! A lot!
Someone gave that person $200k to sit in a game with maybe the best cash game player on earth! Thats important!
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yes they do - posters in this very thread think the hand itself is evidence of cheating. the only way you can make that conclusion is if you think no one, no matter how bad they are, can make a call like that - it isn’t true.
money’s also relative, who knows if this is play money stakes to her, and if you’re applying bankroll theory the stakes actually shouldn’t really matter.
anyway this has all been done to death already, here and elsewhere, it’s a really dumb “point” to make to start asking people for their 2/5 hh’s lol. many of us have seen bizarre calls live and elsewhere. i truly don’t understand this idiotic line of questioning, especially from someone who admittedly doesn’t know how to even play this variant.
No, they think that play in that game is suspect.
No one would give two shits about this hand if it was played online and the pit size was $1.35.
Anyone thinking $200k doesn’t matter to them is a fool.
ok, here’s a hand I remembered, I once overshoved into a river that ended up being 2000 bb’s with Q4 which was like the 5th best full house and he called with a baby flush. impossibly terrible call, on the order of this hand
pot size roughly 2k iirc.
Yeah man, never seen anyone overplay a boat before, or be unable to fold a flush.
You’re being absolutely ridiculous.
Zeebo theorem alone is almost 20 years old!
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another hand, called me with air
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The big thing here is people capable of calling as bad as the J4 hand play pretty wild overall and do “normal level dumb” stuff pretty often. It doesn’t match her other play.
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I dont understand this trolling.
He called to play the full house on board, that’s several orders of magnitude less crazy.
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I don’t think jmakin is trolling.
I mean, hh’s were asked for, just posting them. people make terrible calls. it’s a really idiotic point to keep trying to push, especially attacking other poster’s credibility. I know what I’ve seen.
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I don’t know of anyone that is in the “absolutely sure or 99% sure she didn’t cheat” camp. There are just a bunch of people who are way too sure she cheated based on the evidence.