Maybe. I’ve definitely seen lots of stupid shit talking after horrendous plays, it was worse the higher the stakes. But obviously not THAT high, so I dunno. But Robbie looks like a typical bad reg that thinks she’s a winning player, to make matters worse she’s an attention fiend evidently.
Describe the horrendous plays and the shit talking in detail.
I can’t remember a specific hand, lol. It has been probably 10 years since I played consistently.
Apologies because I didn’t mean to single you out and don’t mean to come in guns blazing all hyperconfrontational after a long UP hiatus, you were just the last post when I opened the thread, but there’s no other way to really put it that this:
Yes, I know, and I knew that would be your answer, because it’s every single person’s answer after they’ve said they’ve seen Crazy Amateurs make Crazy Plays.
Also, you will remember this J4o hand in ten years for the same reasons.
But anyone who plays a lot will likely have a handful of people like this, with 1 or 2 sticking out. They are likely to be male (although when I began grinding 1 was female as well). Everyone hates these people! With an absolute passion! I’ve seen years of people requesting table changes away from them!
I definitely won’t. I have a really weird, shitty memory. I might remember there was a controversy over a hand where people were accused of cheating, but I won’t recall the action.
The people making crazy plays?
I think a lot of this comes down to just how crazy the play is, and even though it’s impossible to quantify I feel the J4o is an order of magnitude crazier than anything anybody has ever seen.
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More being toxic at the table. Now Robbi wasn’t toxic before the play. And high stakes people shut up more because if the player is dropping 5-6 figures you shut up and let them vs the dude losing $200 at 1/2.
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Honestly, and I’m ready to be accused of being melodramatic, but the last time I felt this way was about trump and the magahats, wondering how in the hell people are falling for this shit. That’s the analogy I keep coming up with whilst trying to listen to Robbi’s interviews (‘trying’ being the operative word because Lord it is hard): she’s incredibly trumpian in how she handles conflict.
Also as a footnote/tangent, why some of the misogyny angles seem so bizarre (obv not all of them come on now, dudes out here hate women): all of her manipulative bullying tactics and narcissistic obsession to charm people and sociopathic lying strikes me as shit dudes do.
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Ohh gotcha, now I’m following.
Whatever contempt I assign to Garret’s actions, I do not believe that he “cornered” her.
Also anyone playing the “you protected a rigged game” card is not being realistic. Ignoring collusion is something I would, and have, absolutely do in these underground games with the win rates they offer.
Not saying I would take Garrett’s line in the game that he quit but I wouldn’t feel great about passing judgement either. 2nd nut flush getting pipped isn’t that uncommon so that does point towards Garrett ego tripping.
The woman card is what saved/is saving her. If Rip and Robbi’s roles were reversed they would’ve took him to the back room and broke his hands Old Vegas style.
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Not to mention (and apologies if this has already been discussed) but:
Garrett is the person with a marked identity who people wanted to take down a notch. The misogynists, the ones who think poker is some tough manly endeavor, the ones who I owe my livelihood to, are the one on Robbi’s side. Sure, women are The Worst but nobody emasculates them like some nerd winning their poker maneyz.
Immediately after the hand, the misogynist was the one defending Robbi!
Eric Perrson kept saying Garrett is like a nagging spoiled ex-wife who will never be happy, fuck her him!
brother you said it
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Bart Hanson tried to quantify it. Her hand is a 3:1 dog to a bluffs only range. The fact that she can’t even beat bluffs is the part poker people understand and why the hand is so weird. It’s not just J high, it’s J high no draw with a card to come. But that doesn’t stop people like SB Nation guy writing shit like, “Sure, she had a bad hand, but he had an even worse hand! Therefore sexism.”
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and reality shows are largely scripted and manipulated…
I have called with worse hands with this in dumber spots.
I’ve always been an omaha player and now I exclusively play only 5 and 6 card Omaha, and I meme myself self-deprecatingly by saying I don’t know a damn thing about weird 2 Card Hold Them… But whoo boy did I learn this past week how much I really do understand NLHE relative to the populace.
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6ix, do you still think that because garrett the poker pro believes she was cheating that’s evidence of 100% cheating, or have you adjusted your view? what do you think is most likely?
Well, you know what my next question/statement is gonna be.
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I never said that was the sole evidence and also I don’t beat my wife and in fact I don’t and have never had a wife. I will say that is one of a few things that factors in to my near 100% belief of cheating, in the same manner that I listen to climate scientists input about climate change and not magahats on facebook and tweeter.
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