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Yeah, that would make sense too.

Correct. The most secure way would be hole card cameras hard wired and the players have to show their hand at the end. But it opens up to angle shooting “accidental” mucks and players just forgetting. It would also slow the game down.

Someone could make readers that hold the info until the end of the hand, then the dealer pushes a button and all the data is sent. That reduces the vulnerability a ton.

Those are good ideas too, but they will take time and money. I could retrofit an existing table to use the rfid muck idea in an afternoon and it’d be ready for play that night. Immensely tightened security for essentially no cost or downtime.

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WTF it got weirder. Vertucci claims he got hacked on Twitter.

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That makes sense.

Right but they could program it to black out the hole cards but alert to technical issues, and it shouldn’t be that hard to do, right?

If the data is collected, somebody can have access to it.

poor joey

https://twitter.com/JohnnieVibes/status/1578781989469007872

https://twitter.com/NickVertucciNV/status/1578782453572853760

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That’s some funny shit if after all this he doesn’t know what two factor is.

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This is the least surprising thing ever.

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In case this hasn’t already been mentioned, someone in production needs to be able to communicate to the dealer when a player does not properly put the cards in the correct spot for the RFID reader. The dealer then asks the player to do so. This has to be done in real time. (Of course, it is possible that this person doesn’t really need to know the hole cards but only if they were read by the reader.)

Right, this would be an improvement but not perfect. This plus searching people well enough to avoid any electronics/devices coming in would be pretty close.

Yes, I suggested blacking out the hole card graphics, which they’ve done in the past for TVs near the FT of the Main Event that get a live feed sans hole cards.

Then flash them red if they aren’t read. You could even have it trigger an alarm or something in the production booth. Maybe make a seat vibrate!

The idea of not even collecting the hole card data until cards are mucked is perfect imo. I do think the system could alert if/when data isn’t read correctly. Maybe you could rotate five decks and keep mucked hole cards segregated for 10 minutes in case you need to manually check/correct data when the system reports a problem.

If I was designing the system, I would have the rfid reader encrypt what it read using the public key of the system server. In real time humans would see how many cards it read, but not their contents. The rfid stream and the video streams sit on the server for the delay time before being piped (decrypted) to the announcers and broadcast.

A human having access to the data is the design flaw.

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This seems so obvious it leads me to think there has to be some reason it’s not done that we are missing.

Supposedly the software was initially designed by some friends streaming small home game a game for fun, and somehow became the industry standard. Not sure of the details, someone mentioned it in passing on a stream. So take it with a grain of salt.

I don’t get how anyone can have faith in Nick/Ryan’s ability to run a secure game anymore. It sounds like it was a well known fact that Bryan was a degen and a big loser both at poker and the pits (and that he had outstanding debts). That should be a huge red flag that one of the guys with access to hole cards is a losing gambler and thus vulnerable to being exploited (I mean this was one of the big plot points in Casino). Add in that he’s a known serial criminal (not saying that means he should be hired, but maybe don’t give criminals easy access to hole card data) and that he apparently moved around the set-up to make it easier to cheat.

Not saying they are in on it, but this is some of the most lax security ever.

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During the Postle investigation Berkey did a couple of streams describing the capabilities and limitations of the RFID system Stones Casino used (and I think every other live stream uses). IIRC the system was not at all designed for this purpose and is woefully lacking in security features.

Berkey also talked about the timing of events such as hole cards, graphics, commentary, etc. There was a lot of confusion surrounding one Postle hand in which he tabled cards different than shown in the graphics. This was part of trying to determine if people in graphics needed to be involved in Postle’s scheme (or something like that).

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