Gap between payout 1 and payout 2 literally don’t mean anything, as 100% of the remaining prizepool is always given to first (you mentally assume everyone has won areas the next out prize when playing tournaments.
I.e 1st is $100, 2nd is $20
Reality is you already have the $20 locked up, and are playing a HU match for $80.
Same applies if 1st was $100 and 2nd was $75. YOU already have $75, you are just playing a HU match for $25.
It’s why ICM literally isn’t a thing heads up, there is no laddering to do. You either win or lose.
aware that icm considerations are not a thing hu. It was a consideration because I’m not super well rolled for this game (it’s like 50% dead money) and the jump represents a sizable portion of my bankroll, so I’d rather not be flipping for huge chunks of equity when it was basically impossible to lose postflop.
I believe this guy actually realized this and is why he was doing it, which impressed me a lot.
Here are some hands I was dealt on the button in a recent 2/5 PLO live session. Tell me which hands I should not be folding with. Hands are from 8- or 9-handed play. Feels pretty normal.
Suits are separated by dashes. AKT-2 would be AKT of one suit and 2 of another suit. A2-KT would be a double-suited hand. AKT2 would be four cards of the same suit while A-K-T-2 or AKT2r would be a hand with four suits. “Two limpers, raise to 20, one call” means that two players called, another raised to 20, and a fourth player called the raise and anyone else folded. I wasn’t able to capture what positions the actions were in but I don’t think it matter much. Assume stack depth of 100-200bb.
JT-9-9 one limper, raise to 10, one caller, action on me
J-76-2 six limpers
K6-4-3 five limpers, raise to 25
K2-94 four limpers
Q9-T-9 two limpers, raise to 20, one caller
9864r four limpers, raise to 20
K4-92 two limpers, raise to 20
(a) 97-96 one straddler, four limpers
(b) 97-96 one straddler, 7 limpers (including hero) straddle raises to two players call, everyone else folds (straddler always has AA)
Most of those are crap hands, I’d be folding most of them and I’m someone who loves raising in games w/tons of calling stations and almost no non-AA 3-betting.
If I’m expanding my preflop ranges it would be with broadway cards or almost any suited A, or higher 1-gap or 2-gap connectors.
Of your hands, I’m prob raising the 9976ds, possibly calling the QT99ss and possibly calling the JT99ss. Everything else is bottom 25% at a table like this.
Line check on two spots as the pfr with identical flops.
11 handed private game. First hand played as 5-10 second hand game switched to 5-10-25.
Many limps. I have red KK in the SB and raise to 125. I get 6 callers :(
Flop T86ccs.
I check (?). Checked all the way to the CO (last to act) who bets 300.
I call (?). Two other calls.
I have about 3500, the CO has 2k behind and the other two somewhere in between. It’s early on and I’ve never played with any of them. CO seems to be straight forward and not great.
Turn Kc cause of course.
I check (?). Checked around.
River 2c. I check. Checked around. one of the callers win with QxJc. CO shows 66 for flopped bottom set.
Game 5-10-25. I open 88 to 100 from EP. 4 callers. 2 in position, 2 in the blinds.
Flop T86ssx
Checked to me, I bet 300, HJ and BTN call, blinds fold. HJ is a rich older guy who was a passive nit but has been very splashy lately and tries to do lots of things he heard about in vlogs. BTN is the only kinda solid player in the game, he runs it and is very rarely going to put himself in high variance spots. Under bluffs and pretty predictable.
I felt like opening pre, cbetting a really wet board into 5 players and betting the “worst” turn card for overpairs is too strong. I can’t imagine i’m ever betting aces on that turn and HJ isn’t bad enough to not notice it
First, 11 handed poker is an abomination against god.
Ok First hand seems ok. Second one I agree it’s a for sure turn bet. You said villain was not good and passive. What are you checking for? Hoping he will bet? Just go for value imo.
i think he’s not folding a combo but he is folding K5ss or whatever.
@clovis8 yeah he’s def paying attention. After the hand he even mentioned that I checked the same flop with the Kings earlier. These aren’t your Alberta fish. He tries to play well, he just mixes too many things and uses them in the wrong time.
fwiw I’m defending my line here but it’s very possible i should bet there because I can continue with FD/Combos too and check overpairs and naked straight draws
It is but its a charge game and not a raked game. Which in the world of underground poker where rake is crazy high its almost unheard of. I offered the couple running the game to pay 50% more to keep it 9 handed but no luck so far.
What are you betting on the turn in hand #2? Seems turn is a great spot for a polarized bet range - FHs and some draws. Probably best to bet small if you think he’s folding everything other than a T or a strong combo draw.
Unless you’re checking 100% of the time on that turn, seems your bet range needs to have some FHs in it.
Hand 2 I bet small(maybe 450) and encourage something stupid, which might be drawing to a dead gutshot or raising a dead flush draw. I think that size allows them to raise Tx as opposed to just calling down.
As played I think I’d go for the check raise in game speed and feel stupid when it goes check check behind with 99 and 67o lol.