well you give zero read, but generally a villain who does that likes their hand and isn’t folding to a shove.
Lol what hand does your line make any sense with? Like what story are you telling?
Terrible. Trying to blast someone off their hand when they’re repping strength in a limped multi-way pot is pretty much suicide. If they’ve got 2 pair, they’re not thinking he’s got 68 so I’m gonna fold, they’re thinking if it’s 68 it’s just a cooler and they pay it off. I’d say you get called here a huge percentage of the time. I used to do this with combo draws sometimes, just incinerating money.
Not sure why people keep replying to Bruce’s hhs. The whole point of posting them is to get feedback but he clearly doesn’t care at all about the feedback. 100% of his posts get a near uniform response yet he seems to conclude the united response is wrong and the correct play is to just do the exact same thing next time.
It’s just some kind of weird performance art.
And the template for all future replies to NBZ:
absolutely hate it.
On that note have a PLO question.
Game last night was super loose. Like next level. Mandatory double straddle and even some third straddle blind potting. Table is also really deep with average stack in the $3k plus range.
I began playing my weaker aces and kings much less aggressive than I normally would. I genuinely couldn’t decide if I should still be sticking it in with this tiny edge or waiting for much better spots.
Guys were giving it away in so many places. With infinite bullets I’d get it is with shitty aces and kings but felt like it was more plus ev to wait for spots where I was like 80% plus which were not hard to come by.
Too weak?
Depends on the stacks.
If there’s a buyin limit, you could make an argument for gambling w/just a marginal edge to try and get deeper with a couple whales.
In general though, I wouldn’t really love inflating pots with weak AA and KK and would want some other strong components with my hand.
Ya. If the game was new and more shallow I would get it in but with a several of us having like $4k it felt weird to get it is when I was so likely to be in with more than one other player so often.
I have the opposite issue as Bruce where I have to fight my urge to be aggressive and anytime I’m playing weak I really feel odd and over question it.
Saw a funny last night too. Known grumpy nit sat down short and didn’t want to double straddle. He is the double or get stacked and leave guy who comes into plo from 1/2 Holdem to take a shot sometimes. Two of the biggest whales who were buddies openly told him they were going to target him with everything to bust him until he left. One ended up busting him after calling all in pre with 239j against nits Kkjj. Normally I don’t like being mean to players at the table but these nits who want to destroy the action at a fun table sort of deserve it.
Also saw a guy last night who only wanted to play with $500 chips. lol. For every bet he used only $500 chips. Bought into the game for $10k. He was really bad.
Plo rules!
I have the opposite issue as Bruce where I have to fight my urge to be aggressive and anytime I’m playing weak I really feel odd and over question it.
Have you considered that’s your super toxic alpha-male rage bubbling through?
Indeed. 
In all honesty I think it’s a bit of a leak sometimes. I do spew too much in some spots. If I was playing for a living I would need to fix it as I’m sure it lowers my win rate overall.
For example, last night I missed a wrap and tried to bluff the loosest guy at the table on the river. He did think about his bottom two call for a while before calling but in hindsight it was just a hopeless bluff.
Super deep PLO can be a variance nightmare. If you’re comfortable gambling it up on small edges, go for it. In games like you’re describing, I’m more likely to play very well correlated hands that can make huge multi-way hands post flop.
I’m repping a straight, but I also would play a set this way.
My live read was that his turn bet was cautious. Like he felt he was supposed to bet, but he wasn’t in love with betting and was going to hate getting called.
Anyways, he tank-called. Like tanked long enough for someone to call the clock. The river bricked and I end up winning vs 6
4
.
If they’re giving it away, I just never raise preflop unless I’m getting it in or squeezing people so there is dead money. You don’t need to build the pot preflop because they’ll do it for you post-flop. You have massive implied odds with every hand you play.
You mainly want to play your weak AAxx hands for set value since it’s hard to navigate post-flop if you miss. When you bloat the pot with these hands, you create more fold equity for your opponents to have against you; you’re not going to come close to realizing your equity.
My home games are on pause bc everyone is there
I just thought of a nlhe variant that I might try at my next home game, but wanted to run it by you guys for input, advice, and to see if you’ve heard of anything like it.
Standard nlhe except you’re dealt 5 hole cards. After flop betting but before turn is dealt, all players must surrender 2 hole cards. After turn betting but before river is dealt, all players must surrender 1 card. Rest plays normally.
I think that might throw enough monkey wrenches in the works to make it pretty interesting. Might be fun working out good strategies.
Edit: Maybe 4 cards preflop works better, with 1 discard on flop and turn.
Sounds likes like lazy pineapple with an extra card.
There are no discards in lazy pineapple. Regular pineapple has a discard before the flop. Crazy pineapple has the discard after the flop.
This is the classic Crazy Pineapple for Advanced Players satire by Jerrod Ankenman. It’s funnier if you’ve read 2+2 books.
https://groups.google.com/g/rec.gambling.poker/c/s1AgbETSmSA?pli=1
Live 2/5. 500 effective on the turn.
Hero raises UTG to 15 with A
K
. Four callers. There’s no opening size that makes heads-up more likely because a fun player is the first caller and once he calls, others become more inclined to call.
Flop is K
T
7
. SB donks for 15. Hero calls. Button calls.
Turn is 2:
. SB bets 20. Hero raises to 145. Button folds. SB calls.
River is A
. SB checks. Hero…
I’ve been thinking about player profiles I can value bet against here…mainly if a player donks the flop with a draw, how likely are they to donk the river when they hit.
Yikes. Raise a lot more pre if you know a fish will call, then ldo raise the 20% pot donk. River is a super clear check back. I am now convinced you’re just trolling to get a rise out of Clovis or something. This is too stupid to be credible.
Are you guys just now realizing these HHs are a level?