Most of the games I’ve played you can button straddle but most people don’t do it anyway. But yeah if you’re in the BB of a button straddler, you want to gtfo of that seat.
Here 70% of hands are button straddled.
I’m at a table where about 1/3 are.
It’s pretty loose passive in FL, 70% button straddles would usually mean it’s a game with a lot of good or at least semi competent 2/5 regs trying to turn it into a 5/10 game (or 10/20 game). The 5/10 is usually heavily straddled though
Interesting. Here only the true hardcore nits don’t straddle. Straddling is considered a normal part of the game, especially in my 2/5/5 plo game.
Ahh yea, I’m talking NL games, I’ve got no idea what goes on in the PLO games, I’m sure there’s much more straddling
Our 1/3 no games are 50%+ straddled too.
Interesting. Usually when I’ve played 1/2 NL it’s a no straddling, no raising limp fest
Alberta has notoriously loose games. By far the most gamble I’ve seen having played all over North America. It’s awesome.
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Why would you prefer to change having the best position preflop into the worst position?
Because I misread what you wrote.
I’m generally an advocate of sitting to the immediate right of an action player to trap people instead of their left to isolate.
Yesterday, I moved from the BB of the most aggressive button straddler to his right. The new guy coming into the game wanted to buy my seat for lol $5.
I agree the button straddle is bad for the game. My idea is for a straddle allowed anywhere except the button (or blinds) with priority going to worse position.
They skew heavily towards Trumpers, you should feel good.
I started in limit hold em and then early 2000s when NL became big, I read super system and the only thing I got out of that book was to bet pot and always c bet. Anytime I played nl if I started off preflop raiser I was going pot pot all in. If anyone bet smaller then pot I would check raise them, cause I figured they were weak. Amazing to think back on that. When the 2.2 raise and min raise became a thing late in tournaments online. I also thought was just a bunch of dummies and would jam abs 3 bet them a lot.
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The only thing worse than the button straddle is the Dallas straddle (button has ultimate last action pre flop). UTG straddle or GTFO. Everything else kills pre flop action.
This is so interesting because here it’s the exact opposite. The games with the most button straddling are always the juiciest.
The button straddle causes everyone to limp way more pre. UTG just creates bigger pots without giving the button more power than it already has.
This is PLO, btw. Position is already more important than HE.
Everywhere I’ve seen a button straddle for NLHE, it’s good for the game for a year or two, then starts trending towards being very very bad for the game within another year or two.
I assume it tricks bad players into playing bigger than they ought to and too many fish end up going broke and quitting rather than losing at a rate where they have a replenishable bankroll.
No, people eventually learn to play tighter OOP.
How’s this for speech play?
Standard six-way PLO pot that was 3bet pre. I flop a set on a K97 board. Checked to me with one player behind and I go all-in for maybe 2/3 pot. Folded to the player to my right and he starts talking about how the pot is so big so I have to have something.
I sense he’s wavering and about to fold, so I tell him that he’s right and I am unlikely to be bluffing because my bet isn’t really that big relative to the pot. He immediately says because I said that he’s calling. I win and he said he had top pair, a gutshot, and a backdoor flush draw.