From MP, JJ994 dbl trpl suited is a GTO fold. -0.17bb/100 EV, which probably makes it a raise at a weaker table though.
On the button it bumps up to +0.29 EV if opened. Thing is though, it’s an ok-ish hand HU, but becomes bad multi-way. 5-way in PLO5, nuttiness becomes huge and you have no nut suits, little high card strength, difficulty making a straight, etc.
On the T73 flop with a couple to act after, I’d expect a better FD to be out (which kills our hand) and fold.
Ended up +2k after giving some back late. Always feel some winners guilt in the reg heavy PLO games when I’m up 5+ buyins.
Big hand was hitting the river with a336cchh on 91052cchh 3 way. Other players had 89QJcc and 6610Qcc.
Other 3 way all in I had KJQ6cc vs idk on J85KJcc runout.
I feel like people lose more money on non-nut flushes than any other hand in 5 card PLO.
True for all plo I think.
Be social and fun to have in the game, win or lose, and no one will ever care seeing you leave up a big winner.
One of my local casinos just allowed match the stack so I’m playing in an afternoon 1-3 game right now with the minimum stack being like 1300. It’s glorious.
Oil at over $100 and match the stack should make this a pretty insane game.
For sure, that’s why I got invited despite there being a large skill gap. I had hundreds to thousands of hours with everyone there last night, but navigating double board bomb pots for the first time was interesting.
I think what some people don’t get about PLO is that your opponents playing wider ranges doesn’t mean you can open up and play more hands when pots are contested massively multi-way. Nut advantage matters more than range advantage.
I’m almost always the tightest player at my table and I play too many hands. My questionable hands are usually in late position at a limpy table, which I generally do well at. I’m on lockdown preflop those rare times I find myself in a game where 3betting pre is the norm.
Whoa there are multiway preflop solvers for 5 card PLO?
That’s a great point, thanks!
Ok, that makes sense. Thanks!
I know Monker Solver can do 5 card PLO as well as omaha hi low.
Not well versed in poker lingo. What is “match the stack”?
A lot of NL/PL games play with a capped buyin amount. A “match the stack” game means any player can buyin or top off their stack up to the amount of the largest stack on the table.
First off, this turn c/r i would take note of. Rare that most villains size down OOP with these stacks. Would expect most to size up to deny equity to your range which can profitably peel close to 100%, assuming you’re constructing reasonably. Does he value bet thin? Any reads at all? Some players will value bet lower sets (discounted because of flop action and betsize, but not entirely). Most villains will have straights and bluffs. Natural bluffs are flush draw + gutters or overpair + flush draw that missed like KJJ9xcc, Q56cc,45/46/56 with pairs or FD/bdfd from flop).
You block a pair, the NFD, hold top set, and your hand contains no blockers to possible straights (or straight blockers!?).
Without specific reads I still call because, IME, the subset of players who make it 120 oop on turn are monkeying it up and overbluffing most runouts with weak blockers. Your range was kept wide on the turn (you have a lot of 2 pairs and flush draw/pair combinations that can fold on this river, more so than when more of your range folds to a PSR on turn).
Some people mistakenly refer to this as “table stakes”.
I ended up calling and they turned over Jc6c7x7x.
Pay heem. Pay that myan his myoney.
I just played 2 hours of 4/8 limit plo. This is without a doubt the dumbest poker variant imaginable.
There’s no such thing as limit plo.
Archie is the dumbest poker variant.
How would you profile this opponent? Seems like a 50-something white business owner who loves golf.
2/5. Three limpers. I raise on the button to 40. My hand is irrelevant.
Villain is SB and is one of four callers.
Flop is A33. Villain donks for 50 and gets one caller (not me). Turn and river go check-check. Villain wins with KK.
Do you think he ever bluffs? Does he ever make a big bet without a strong hand? Does he ever make a small bet with a strong hand?
What
He bet to see where he was.
Float that board and 3/4 turn and river and he always folds. At best has like A9sor like AJ