I dont care enough to do so really. Like I haven’t played live poker in 15 months now, is my 1/2 winrate from 2015 or my 2018 5/10 PLO sessions data worth anything beyond bragging rights right now? I very much doubt it.
I think I slightly over isolate online and live fwiw. It’s much tougher to get in trouble live bc so many people are terrible at sizing in PLO and when they pot it, it is a gigantic tell. It’s pretty valuable to always know how much a PSB is live so you can just say the amount rather than potting it by saying pot.
I basically only say “pot” when it’s a clear raising situation vs a fish who isn’t folding. Any pre situation or situation against any semi competent I know what a PSb is and will verbalize the amount if I want to bet that much.
I’m curious because I think my results are weird and don’t make any sense to me. At some point, I’m going to post some data and ask what people think.
This is my live PLO graph with 5000+ hours and I think it’s supposed to be a lot more spiky and volatile and less like a straight line. I know my style won’t work as well at higher stakes and my graph shouldn’t look like this is I ever move up.
I think with your passive play that’s not very uncommon at all. From 2015-2019 in 1/3 PLO and a small amount of 2/5 logged as the same I had years of 102/hr, 88/hr, 22/hr and 84/hr. The bad year I couldn’t hold any all in.
I just wouldn’t expect a major downswing from a player with your style.
I am genuinely mystified. If I am actually getting 80-90% of my potential EV but cutting out a ton of variance, maybe that trade-off is worth it, especially if it is less stressful and I have real health benefits from it.
I started out playing small stakes limit hold em. At some point, I bought Ed Miller’s 2P2 book. I didn’t think much of it because I felt its strategy amounted to bloating the pot on early streets so that you can play automatically on later streets when the pot is big. I played more towards keeping the pot smaller on early streets so that loose players made more mathematical mistakes calling with too many hands on the big bet streets.
I look at PLO the same way. If you make the pot bigger preflop, then a lot of the play ends up being somewhat automatic. If I could see all the hands, I could tell you for the most part how the betting will go down. People make a lot of bad calls when the initial pot is smaller and the first pot-sized bet is under $100. And then they feel tied to the pot and make significant mistakes on later streets, whereas if you make the pot too big pre, then they find it easier to dump their low equity (or low equity realization hands) on the flop. This doesn’t describe behavior at all tables, but it is a good model for enough tables I play at for me to find it useful.
Last year I had a 70 buyin downswing followed almost immediately by a 100 buyin upswing. Online 6max PLO is fun. Remember the old days when a 20 buyin bankroll was the recommendation?
I’m going to Dallas to play sometime in August or September. My best buddy lives there and it gives me a great excuse to go play in those ridiculous games.
